Hello, any more information or context I can provide to move this forward? On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 11:21 AM mark a. foltz <mfo...@chromium.org> wrote:
> Yes, the intention is to allow coordination of experimentation with > another origin trial for Page-Embedded Permissions Controls. I am CCing > +Chris > Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org> and +Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> who > I've discussed the background for this request. > > More detailed reasoning is covered in the "motivation" part of the > chromestatus, which for some reason the tool does not include in the > generated email (is that a bug?) I've copied it below for convenience. > > m. > Motivation > > This is not a traditional deprecation trial as we are not changing > Web-facing behavior. Instead we are using a reverse origin trial to > coordinate a Chrome launch with the launch of Page Embedded Permissions > controls. This origin trial will exclude sites from the launch of Media > Previews. Design Doc for Media Previews: [image: icon]Chrome Camera and > Mic Previews > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZnX2JROjr9l4y2_OPMpfVlLOo-A5cQzD4mWarj9kXQ0/edit> > Excerpts from the above document: Chrome will provide real-time previews of > camera and microphone input at the time camera and microphone permissions > are requested by websites. These will also be available from the site’s > pageinfo. In addition, users with multiple devices will be able to select a > camera and microphone at the time permissions are requested, unless the > site has requested a specific device through getUserMedia(). This feature > is in concurrent development with another permissions-related project, > Page-Embedded Permissions Controls. Users will be exposed to PEPC under an > independent launch process involving a separate origin trial and/or > site-specific experiments. To allow the media previews and PEPC launches to > proceed in parallel without exposing users to multiple experimental > conditions, we will be providing a reverse origin trial to allow sites that > plan to adopt PEPC to opt out of media previews. > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 12:18 PM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < > yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> Another question - do you want this browser UI feature to be controlled >> with an Origin Trial? If so, can you expand on the reasoning? >> >> On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 7:25 PM mark a. foltz <mfo...@chromium.org> wrote: >> >>> That's correct. This will impact Chrome's permission UI but not the >>> behavior of the gated web APIs (navigator.mediaDevices.getUserMedia / >>> navigator.mediaDevices.enumerateDevices). >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 3:02 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < >>> yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Do I understand correctly that this intent only concerns the permission >>>> UI itself and is not web exposed in any way? >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:16 PM mark a. foltz <mfo...@chromium.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> FYI, this request has been shifted one milestone forward (from 124 => >>>>> 135, to 125 => 136) because of some UI changes that will require >>>>> additional >>>>> eng work to address. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 10:04 AM mark a. foltz <mfo...@chromium.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The automatically generated subject wasn't appropriate for this >>>>>> intent, so I edited it by hand. I think Jason is aware of it as I was >>>>>> conversing with him on a GitHub issue about it. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 8:28 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < >>>>>> yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> As a heads up, this wasn't caught in the API owner tooling, probably >>>>>>> due to the unconventional title. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +Jason Robbins <jrobb...@google.com> - FYI >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 9:33 PM mark a. foltz <mfo...@chromium.org> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Contact emailsmfo...@chromium.org, bryantchand...@chromium.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ExplainerNone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Specification >>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZnX2JROjr9l4y2_OPMpfVlLOo-A5cQzD4mWarj9kXQ0/edit >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Design docs >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZnX2JROjr9l4y2_OPMpfVlLOo-A5cQzD4mWarj9kXQ0/edit >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Summary >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Allow coordination between sites using Page Embedded Permissions >>>>>>>> Controls and concurrent experiments with the camera and microphone >>>>>>>> permissions UI in Chrome. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blink componentBlink>MediaStream >>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EMediaStream> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TAG reviewNone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TAG review statusNot applicable >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Risks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> None as this feature concerns the functionality of Chrome's >>>>>>>> permissions UI, and does not change the behavior of the APIs that are >>>>>>>> gated >>>>>>>> by it: navigator.mediaDevices.enumerateDevices and >>>>>>>> navigator.mediaDevices.getUserMedia Other browsers implement their own >>>>>>>> permissions UIs independently of Chrome. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Gecko*: N/A >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *WebKit*: N/A >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Web developers*: No signals >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Other signals*: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WebView application risks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, >>>>>>>> such that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based >>>>>>>> applications? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> None >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Debuggability >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> None >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>>>>>>> ?No >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Flag name on chrome://flags--enable-features=camera-mic-preview >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Finch feature nameCameraMicPreview >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome?False >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tracking bughttps://issues.chromium.org/330762482 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Launch bughttps://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4304480 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Estimated milestones >>>>>>>> Origin trial desktop first 124 >>>>>>>> Origin trial desktop last 135 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5100528783851520?gate=5076768018137088 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status >>>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CALgg%2BHG8dcBFh%2Bw4WbVwVbYvTJ8y5DzrhaxkU%3D2vWMyB0ixUeQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CALgg%2BHG8dcBFh%2Bw4WbVwVbYvTJ8y5DzrhaxkU%3D2vWMyB0ixUeQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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