Thanks James, that works! 
So users should just restart their browser once they have v1.0.0.17 of the 
component?

Op maandag 22 juli 2024 om 17:56:54 UTC+3 schreef James Scott:

> Hi all,
> The latest configuration (v1.0.0.17) to re-enable the feature went out 
> last week. Could you go to chrome://components/ and check the version of 
> the Origin Trials component and report back what you see?
> [image: image.png]
>
> Users will need to restart their browser after getting the latest version.
>
> Best,
> James
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 2:47 AM François Beaufort <fbea...@google.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Note that I can also reproduce this issue with 
>> https://element-capture-demo.glitch.me/
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>> @origin-tri...@google.com Can you help us fix this?
>> My understanding was that the breaking period was between June 24 and 
>> July 15. The issue happens for both old and new tokens.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 9:21 PM Danny Moerkerke <drmoe...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I registered a token for the origin trial but it doesn't seem to work. 
>>> Is it not active yet?
>>>
>>> Demo: https://whatpwacando.today/element-capture
>>>
>>> Op dinsdag 21 mei 2024 om 12:05:58 UTC+2 schreef Elad Alon:
>>>
>>>> Thank you for the LGTMs.
>>>>
>>>> A quick update that we have discussed the matter with the OT Core team, 
>>>> and it appears to us all better to have the breaking period between June 
>>>> 24 
>>>> (first day of break) and July 15 (first day of renewed experiment). This 
>>>> ensures that partners have time to mint a new token and roll it out to 
>>>> their production enviornment ahead of m127 shipping to Stable.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 4:41:36 PM UTC+2 Yoav Weiss wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LGTM3
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 8:40 PM Chris Harrelson <chri...@chromium.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> LGTM2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 11:36 AM Mike Taylor <mike...@chromium.org> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK - thanks for the clarification. I would ask that you get in touch 
>>>>>>> with every registered origin - expiring the experiment early may be 
>>>>>>> surprising.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LGTM1 to experiment from M127 to M132 inclusive.
>>>>>>> On 5/14/24 12:08 PM, Elad Alon wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm asking for a break-off period starting July 1 and ending July 22 
>>>>>>> (inclusive). That means that the original trial will end on June 30, 
>>>>>>> and be 
>>>>>>> restarted on July 23. This corresponds to breaking the original 
>>>>>>> experiment 
>>>>>>> early during the cycle of what would have otherwise been its final 
>>>>>>> milestone (m126), the restarting the experiment over the m127-m132 
>>>>>>> range. 
>>>>>>> (CC Panos for feasibility.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 10:25:03 PM UTC+2 mike...@chromium.org 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note: Because you're asking for a renewal of 6 milestones, this 
>>>>>>>> will require 3 LGTMs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you clarify which milestones you're asking for? You've written 
>>>>>>>> "(2024-May-14 to 2024-Jun-04)" - that range maps to M125 and M126 
>>>>>>>> stable 
>>>>>>>> releases.
>>>>>>>> On 5/10/24 6:44 AM, 'Elad Alon' via blink-dev wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Blink owners,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are asking for a breaking period of 3 weeks to this API, 
>>>>>>>> followed by a renewed experiment for the traditional 6 milestones 
>>>>>>>> (2024-May-14 to 2024-Jun-04). A request 
>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/I4RE2pbocTg> 
>>>>>>>> that seems similar to me was granted in January 2022 for another API, 
>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>> later shipped successfully with consensus with Mozilla and Apple.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At the time of writing, we have public support 
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/screen-share/meetings/blob/main/minutes/2023-02-16.md#appendix-a-poll-for-element-capture>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> for this API from such companies as Zoom, Jitsi, Mux, DialPad, 
>>>>>>>> Whereby, 
>>>>>>>> Intel and Tella. Tango’s co-founder wrote 
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/screen-share/element-capture/issues/3#issuecomment-1483660309>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> “I can't emphasize enough how instrumental this specification would be 
>>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>>> our product and user experience.” However, none of them have signed up 
>>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>>> the OT as of yet. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From the OT perspective:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This API allows Web developers to build novel new features; 
>>>>>>>> however, it requires a non-trivial investment. We are hoping that 
>>>>>>>> after 
>>>>>>>> giving more time, we will see more participation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From the standardization perspective:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We need time to pick up discussions with Mozilla and Apple again. 
>>>>>>>> As Chrome’s Security and Privacy experts do not share the concerns 
>>>>>>>> Mozilla 
>>>>>>>> and Apple have previously voiced, it stands to reason that additional 
>>>>>>>> discussions will allow us to converge - and we will prioritize these 
>>>>>>>> discussions now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Additionally, some possibilities remain for API changes that could 
>>>>>>>> perhaps allow for a compromise, mostly around cross-origin isolation. 
>>>>>>>> (Full 
>>>>>>>> disclosure - this is not my ideal outcome, but it’s a fallback 
>>>>>>>> possibility 
>>>>>>>> worth mentioning.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Progress made:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>    Spec: The spec has evolved and is now more mature, dealing 
>>>>>>>>    better with such edge cases as loss of “eligibility for 
>>>>>>>> restriction.”
>>>>>>>>    - 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>    TAG: Previously we held off on the request for a TAG review 
>>>>>>>>    until we got some more developer feedback about the API shape. 
>>>>>>>> Having 
>>>>>>>>    received this initial feedback, the TAG request 
>>>>>>>>    <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/954> has now 
>>>>>>>>    been submitted.
>>>>>>>>    - 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>    Signals: Signals have been requested. Mozilla responded. We 
>>>>>>>>    intend to prioritize this discussion with them now.
>>>>>>>>    - 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>    Feedback: Outreach for feedback from the spec community - 
>>>>>>>>    multiple issues 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/screen-share/element-capture/issues?q=is%3Aissue> 
>>>>>>>>    were filed on the spec by Web developers.
>>>>>>>>    - 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>    WPT: Coverage has recently been extended 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5404107/15/third_party/blink/web_tests/external/wpt/mediacapture-streams/BrowserCaptureMediaStreamTrack-restrictTo.https.html>
>>>>>>>>    .
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reasons to run a new trial:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gain additional feedback from new participants. Examples for 
>>>>>>>> remaining areas where new feedback could help include:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>    Uncover new edge cases which were not uncovered by the spec 
>>>>>>>>    authors and reviewers, implementers and current OT participants. 
>>>>>>>> The 
>>>>>>>>    current edge cases here 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>> <https://screen-share.github.io/element-capture/#elements-eligible-for-restriction>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>    demonstrate how non-obvious these may be.
>>>>>>>>    - 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>    Validate (or refute) the assumptions we have made about the 
>>>>>>>>    viability of an MVP that is missing some functionality. Examples:
>>>>>>>>    - 
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>       Events notifying apps when an element stops/starts being 
>>>>>>>>       “eligible for restriction”.
>>>>>>>>       - 
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>       Mechanism to force elements into an “eligible for 
>>>>>>>>       restriction” state.
>>>>>>>>       - 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>    Encourage future OT participation by Web developers, by 
>>>>>>>>    demonstrating that risks associated with relying on an origin 
>>>>>>>> trial, while 
>>>>>>>>    real, are partially offset by a commitment to keep the OT going 
>>>>>>>> until 
>>>>>>>>    discussions conclude.
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Elad
>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 4:00:11 PM UTC+1 Elad Alon wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for updating, Jan-Ivar. I have now updated this 
>>>>>>>>> information in the ChromeStatus entry. I am looking forward to carry 
>>>>>>>>> on the 
>>>>>>>>> discussion about your position in your standards-positions GitHub 
>>>>>>>>> repo, in 
>>>>>>>>> the Element Capture spec repo, in the Screen Capture CG and in the 
>>>>>>>>> WebRTC 
>>>>>>>>> WG.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 3:53:51 PM UTC+1 
>>>>>>>>> jbru...@mozilla.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Gecko position has been updated to negative. See 
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/857
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 6:41:00 AM UTC-5 Elad Alon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Contact emails 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> elad...@chromium.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Explainer 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/screen-share/element-capture/blob/main/README.md
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Specification 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://screen-share.github.io/element-capture
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Summary 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> API for capturing a subtree of the DOM.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Given a video MediaStreamTrack obtained through pre-existing 
>>>>>>>>>>> means to initiate tab-capture, Element Capture allows mutating the 
>>>>>>>>>>> track to 
>>>>>>>>>>> only capture a subtree of the DOM starting at a given Element.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The API bears some resemblance to the Region Capture API, but 
>>>>>>>>>>> affords greater flexibility for applications, because occluding and 
>>>>>>>>>>> occluded content are both excluded from the capture.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Blink component 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Blink>GetDisplayMedia 
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EGetDisplayMedia>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> TAG review 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We are holding off on the request for a TAG review until we get 
>>>>>>>>>>> some more developer feedback about the API shape.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> TAG review status 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pending
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Risks 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gecko: Under consideration (
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/857)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> WebKit: No signal (
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/280)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Web developers:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Positive See upvotes and comments on the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    - https://github.com/WICG/proposals/issues/73 
>>>>>>>>>>>    - https://twitter.com/quicksave2k/status/1583388663597015042 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Other signals:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> WebView application risks 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, 
>>>>>>>>>>> such that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based 
>>>>>>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Goals for experimentation 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Solicit more informed Web developer feedback to validate the 
>>>>>>>>>>> API shape.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Ensure that the feature works correctly in conjunction with 
>>>>>>>>>>> adjacent features.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Debuggability 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No changes to DevTools are intended.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms 
>>>>>>>>>>> (Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)? 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This API is supported on all desktop platforms. Mobile platforms 
>>>>>>>>>>> are unsupported because screen-capture itself is unsupported on 
>>>>>>>>>>> those 
>>>>>>>>>>> platforms.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests 
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>>>>> ? 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not yet (but we’re working on extending coverage)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Flag name on chrome://flags 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> element-capture
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Finch feature name 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ElementCapture
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tracking bug 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1418194
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Launch bug 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4240472
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Shipping on desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 121
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5198989277790208
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Links to previous Intent discussions 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Intent to prototype: 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAMO6jDO6y5b6y3q9QEd2scsYPWuWLJBnPLgwm%2BaHpKx36CYMwA%40mail.gmail.com
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