A correction about the behavior of other browsers - it looks like Firefox too 
stores blobs and large values in files separate from the SQLite database.
Deleting the files and then attempting to read the value raises a DOMException 
on the IDBRequest with these parameters:
name: "UnknownError"
message: "The operation failed for reasons unrelated to the database itself and 
not covered by any other error code."

It might be helpful to converge on a common error across browsers for this 
scenario. This does not strictly fit in the IndexedDB spec though, since 
storing certain data in separate files is an implementation detail.
What is the usual guidance for such cases?


Thanks,

Abhishek



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Sounds good - thx!

On 9/17/24 10:38 AM, Abhishek Shanthkumar wrote:
Hi, Mike!

The DOMException.name was "DataError" for all cases before this change. It 
remains the same for the "recoverable" cases even after this change. I'll add 
this to the Summary, thanks!

This error is unique to Chromium because, yes, LevelDB is not used by other 
browsers.


Thanks,

Abhishek



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Hi! A couple of questions:

What was the DOMException.name before this change?

Do we know what do other browsers do in this situation? Or is LevelDB only used 
by Chromium?

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Specification
https://www.w3.org/TR/IndexedDB/#dom-idbrequest-error

Summary

Change to reporting for certain error cases that were previously reported with 
a DOMException and the message "Failed to read large IndexedDB value". Chromium 
will now raise a DOMException with the name "NotFoundError" when the file 
containing the data being read by an IDBRequest is missing from the disk so 
that sites can take the appropriate corrective action when an unrecoverable 
failure occurs. Corrective actions could include deleting the entry from the 
DB, notifying the user, re-fetching the data from servers, etc. More details: a 
large value (above a specific size threshold) written to IndexedDB is not 
stored directly in the underlying LevelDB database but instead stored as a 
separate file. An IndexedDB read request for this value looks up the blob 
reference from LevelDB, reads the blob, then unwraps and returns the stored 
value. If a failure occurs in this process, the browser fires an "error" event 
and sets the error property on the IDBRequest to a DOMException with the 
message "Failed to read large IndexedDB value". The failure could be 
recoverable (caused by low memory) or unrecoverable (the blob file is missing 
from the disk). This feature updates the name to "NotFoundError" to enable 
distinguishing recoverable and unrecoverable cases.


Blink component
Blink>Storage>IndexedDB<https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EStorage%3EIndexedDB>

TAG review
None

TAG review status
Not applicable

Risks


Interoperability and Compatibility

None


Gecko: No signal

WebKit: No signal

Web developers: No signals

Other signals:

WebView application risks

Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that it 
has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?

None


Debuggability

None


Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, 
ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?
Yes

This change is in the blink layer of the IndexedDB API implementation and hence 
applies to all Blink platforms.


Is this feature fully tested by 
web-platform-tests<https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?
No

Flag name on chrome://flags
None

Finch feature name
None

Non-finch justification

This is a simple change to the error type when a failure occurs due to a 
specific cause. Web developers can choose to update their sites to respond 
differently to this specific error, but existing general error handling keyed 
to the "Failed to read large IndexedDB value" message will continue to work. 
Hence, this is unlikely to break sites and is therefore not behind a feature 
flag.


Requires code in //chrome?
False

Tracking bug
https://issues.chromium.org/issues/362123231

Estimated milestones
Shipping on desktop     130
Shipping on Android     130
Shipping on WebView     130


Anticipated spec changes

Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or interop 
issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues in the 
project for the feature specification) whose resolution may introduce web 
compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of the API in a 
non-backward-compatible way).

None

Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
https://chromestatus.com/feature/5140210640486400?gate=5120313600507904

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