On Wednesday, November 13, 2024 at 1:14:43 PM UTC+1 Chromestatus wrote:

Contact emails nrosent...@chromium.org, mmo...@chromium.org 

Explainer https://github.com/w3c/paint-timing/blob/main/presentation-
timestamps.md#security--privacy-self-review 

Specification https://w3c.github.io/paint-timing/#mark-paint-timing 

Design docs 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VxgMf1wlWzB4ViAW4ohkOe3AT0wQZ
Kk7hC3IVq-cuw0/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.fmic3y1ir4 

Summary 

All element-timing and LCP performance entries would have a non-zero 
renderTime, even if they are cross-origin without Timing-Allow-Origin. All 
presentation timestamps (renderTime, paint timing start time, event timing 
end time) will be coarsened to a 4ms multiple to mitigate the risk of 
reading cross-origin image information.


Blink component Blink>PerformanceAPIs 
<https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EPerformanceAPIs>
 

TAG review None


I agree that given the lack of API shape changes, no TAG review is required.
 



TAG review status Not applicable 

Risks 


Interoperability and Compatibility 

This would un-zero metrics in RUM dashboards, which is generally positive. 
The coarsening might move LCP/FCP metrics by ~2ms in average, which RUM 
providers should be notified on.

Have y'all done some outreach?
 



*Gecko*: Positive (https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/191) 
Firefox are implementing LCP, however the current way render timing works 
(and the reason it needs to be coarsened) is implementation specific and 
not part of the spec. 

*WebKit*: N/A Safari currently does not expose precise render times, and 
does not intend to. 

*Web developers*: No signals 

*Other signals*: This was discussed in the WebPerfWG. See minutes: 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tw9QTHWvXg-
loG6qaeeosOXTCeH41wst6MehQsc3WwM/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.xlke2hcqy65x 

Security 

This exposes information that was not directly exposed before - render time 
of an image - however it was obtainable in other ways, by rendering a 
same-origin and cross-origin image in the same frame. By coarsening render 
times further, we improve on this situation despite the explicit exposure 
of that timestamp.


WebView application risks 

Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that 
it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?

None


Debuggability 

None


Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, 
Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)? No


I'm guessing this should be "yes"?
 



Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests 
<https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
? Yes 

https://wpt.fyi/results/largest-contentful-paint?label=experimental&label=
master&aligned and https://wpt.fyi/results/element-timing?label=
experimental&label=master&aligned had to be modified for this.


Flag name on about://flags ExposeCoarsenedRenderTime 

Finch feature name ExposeCoarsenedRenderTime 

Requires code in //chrome? False 

Tracking bug https://issues.chromium.org/issues/373263977 

Estimated milestones Shipping on desktop 133 Shipping on Android 133 Shipping 
on WebView 133 

Anticipated spec changes 

Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or 
interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues 
in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may 
introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of 
the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
Removing TAO restriction in paint-timing. 

Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status https://chromestatus.com/
feature/5128261284397056?gate=5150397008969728 

Links to previous Intent discussions Intent to Prototype: 
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-
dev/670d4c25.2b0a0220.137ef7.096d.GAE%40google.com 


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