LGTM2

/Daniel

On 2025-07-09 17:09, Chris Harrelson wrote:
LGTM1

On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 11:19 AM 'Fernando Fiori' via blink-dev <blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:

    Hi,

    I'm reactivating this thread after some updates addressing
    feedback received here:

    - highlightsFromPoint now also returns the ranges hit for each
    Highlight under a given point after discussing it with the CSSWG
    <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/12031> (cc @Stephen)
    to make the API more useful for many real-life scenarios. There
    are more details in the explainer
    
<https://github.com/ffiori/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/master/highlight/HighlightsFromPointsExplainer.md>
 and
    specs
    <https://drafts.csswg.org/css-highlight-api-1/#interactions>, basically
    the type has been changed to the following:

    sequence<HighlightHitResult> highlightsFromPoint(float x, float y,
    optional HighlightsFromPointOptions options = {});

    dictionary HighlightHitResult {
      Highlight highlight;
      sequence<AbstractRange> ranges;
    };

    - The explainer
    
<https://github.com/ffiori/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/master/highlight/HighlightsFromPointsExplainer.md>
 was
    updated to match the new type mentioned above, expanded the
    Alternative Solutions section with further variations, and
    expanded on how the API addresses customer needs (as suggested by
    @Alex).

    - Regarding the concerns about the API being synchronous, other
    async options were explored more in detail (see Alternative
    Solutions section
    
<https://github.com/ffiori/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/master/highlight/HighlightsFromPointsExplainer.md#alternative-solutions>
 in
    the explainer) but we decided to continue pursuing the synchronous
    format. It's simpler and more developer-friendly, and matches the
    syntax and style of other existing *FromPoint APIs. Additionally,
    we believe that the question of synchronous-layout-requiring APIs
    is better addressed separately so that all of these similar
    *FromPoint APIs can be considered holistically (Alex's proposal on
    Event Phases
    
<https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/main/EventPhases/explainer.md>
 is
    a great example of how this can be approached).

    By the way, I also updated the shipping Estimated Milestones to 140.

    Looking forward to any feedback you might have :)

    Thanks,
    Fernando


    El lunes, 3 de marzo de 2025 a la(s) 12:16:09 p.m. UTC-8, Fernando
    Fiori escribió:

        @Domenic, thanks for your feedback, I just updated the
        milestones. Regards the CSSWG current status on the feature,
        there's been consensus on it prior to its I2P and
        implementations, you can refer to this comment (and all the
        discussion taking place in that issue): [css-highlight-api]
        Approaches for dispatching highlight pointer events · Issue
        #7513 · w3c/csswg-drafts
        
<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7513#issuecomment-1248320696>.


        @Stephen, thanks a lot, that'd be amazing :)

        @Robert, I see, thanks for clarifying! I thought you meant
        replacing highlightsFromPoint to also return Elements with the
        additional parameters you mentioned in your last message, my
        comment was related to most of the use cases discussed can be
        satisfied with the simpler highlightsFromPoint API described
        in this I2S and the specs linked. I could see both APIs
        coexisting in the future, but I'm still not super clear on
        what use cases the API you describe could be applied to, I
        think your proposal could definitely be further discussed in
        an issue in the CSSWG for a broader audience.

        As per @Alex's comments, I'm working on updating the explainer
        to capture all the details about alternative solutions and why
        this one was chosen over them there so it's clearer and more
        centralized.

        I'll let you know when the explainer updates are done.

        Thank you all for the feedback,
        Fernando

        El domingo, 2 de marzo de 2025 a la(s) 6:43:21 p.m. UTC-8,
        Domenic Denicola escribió:

            This states "shipping on desktop" but also "supported on
            all six Blink platforms". Perhaps you just forgot to add
            the milestones for Android and Android WebView?

            It seems there's some late-breaking feedback from both
            Google and Microsoft engineers in this thread on the API
            design. I'm unclear to what extent those engineers have
            raised their concerns to the CSSWG. Can you give us a
            sense of the CSSWG's current consensus status on this
            feature? This looks ready to ship to me, but this amount
            of discussion muddles the situation a bit.

            On Saturday, February 15, 2025 at 9:59:59 AM UTC+9
            Fernando Fiori wrote:

                *Contact emails*

                stephan...@microsoft.com, sa...@microsoft.com,
                ffi...@microsoft.com


                *Explainer*

                
https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/main/highlight/HighlightsFromPointsExplainer.md


                *Specification*

                https://drafts.csswg.org/css-highlight-api-1/#interactions


                *Summary*

                The highlightsFromPoint API enables developers to
                interact with custom highlights by detecting which
                highlights exist at a specific point within a
                document. This interactivity is valuable for complex
                web features where multiple highlights may overlap or
                exist within shadow DOM. By providing precise
                point-based highlight detection, the API empowers
                developers to manage dynamic interactions with custom
                highlights more effectively, such as responding to
                user clicks or hover events on highlighted regions to
                trigger custom tooltips, context menus, or other
                interactive features.




                *Blink component*

                Blink>CSS
                
<https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%3ECSS%22>


                *TAG review*

                https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1043


                *TAG review status*

                Issues addressed


                *Risks*




                *Interoperability and Compatibility*

                The 'highlightsFromPoint' API is a new feature so
                there isn’t a compatibility risk. The interoperability
                risk is limited to the usual risk of limited adoption
                and/or inconsistent browser support for a new feature.



                /Gecko/: No signal
                (https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1068)

                /WebKit/: No signal
                (https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/394)

                /Web developers/: Positive
                
(https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7513#issuecomment-1211033472,
                
https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7447#issuecomment-2386160133,
                
https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7447#issuecomment-1183422904)

                /Other signals/:


                *Ergonomics*

                None




                *Activation*

                None




                *Security*

                None




                *WebView application risks*

                /Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of
                existing APIs, such that it has potentially high risk
                for Android WebView-based applications?/

                None




                *Debuggability*

                None




                *Will this feature be supported on all six Blink
                platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and
                Android WebView)?*

                Yes


                *Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
                
<https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?*

                Yes

                
https://wpt.fyi/results/css/css-highlight-api/HighlightRegistry-highlightsFromPoint.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
                
<https://wpt.fyi/results/css/css-highlight-api/HighlightRegistry-highlightsFromPoint.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned>

                
https://wpt.fyi/results/shadow-dom/HighlightRegistry-highlightsFromPoint.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned
                
<https://wpt.fyi/results/shadow-dom/HighlightRegistry-highlightsFromPoint.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned>

                Note that these tests are currently failing in wpt.fyi
                because the feature still has the status test in code
                
<https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:third_party/blink/renderer/platform/runtime_enabled_features.json5;l=2333?q=runtime_enabled_features.json&ss=chromium%2Fchromium%2Fsrc>,
                so it’s not activated for these tests that run under
                experimental flag, but worth mentioning they’re
                passing in chromium CI. They’re expected to pass in
                wpt.fyi as well once the feature status is upgraded.



                *Flag name on about://flags*

                None


                *Finch feature name*

                HighlightsFromPoint


                *Requires code in //chrome?*

                False


                *Tracking bug*

                https://issues.chromium.org/issues/365046212


                *Estimated milestones*


                Shipping on desktop


                134




                *Anticipated spec changes*

                /Open questions about a feature may be a source of
                future web compat or interop issues. Please list open
                issues (e.g. links to known github issues in the
                project for the feature specification) whose
                resolution may introduce web compat/interop risk
                (e.g., changing to naming or structure of the API in a
                non-backward-compatible way)./

                None


                *Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status*

                
https://chromestatus.com/feature/4552801607483392?gate=4762112543686656


                *Links to previous Intent discussions*

                Intent to Prototype:
                
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/SJ0PR00MB130193097BB3B418C676D88CEC642%40SJ0PR00MB1301.namprd00.prod.outlook.com


                This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform
                Status <https://chromestatus.com/>.

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