Hi Alex,

Sorry for the late reply; I've been travelling/OOO for a couple of weeks.

The explainer is at <
https://github.com/w3c/webtransport/blob/main/explainers/subprotocol_negotiation.md
>.

Thanks,
  Victor.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 11:13 AM Alex Russell <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hey Victor,
>
> I appreciate you taking the time to outline this here. I have some
> background on Web Transport (was co-TL for Project Fugu), but it would be
> great for this to be in a separate Explainer document using the usual
> template, as it isn't clear what we're winning, which applications this
> enables, and how it actually interacts with ALPN and the other parts of the
> various handshakes involved. Our overriding question from the API OWNERS
> perspective is "*does this problem solve an important problem well?*".
>
> When we're the leading implementation on a feature (which is the usual
> case these days), we need to provide some arguments and evidence that the
> use-cases are meaningful to developers, and input from developers about how
> this is necessary and useful to them. Explainers provide a format for
> structuring those arguments and explaining the motivating use-cases.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Alex
>
> On Tuesday, September 23, 2025 at 3:10:54 AM UTC-7 Victor Vasiliev wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> WebTransport provides web developers with a networking abstraction that
>> is semantically similar to having a QUIC connection; because of that, all
>> of the user data within a WebTransport session is sent on independent data
>> streams that may arrive in arbitrary order.
>>
>> Normally, this is to the advantage of the applications that are built on
>> top of QUIC or WebTransport.  However, one thing that applications often
>> want to do is negotiate the protocol version at the start; in the
>> multistream world, this is difficult, since you don't know upfront which
>> stream actually has the version negotiation info (they can arrive out of
>> order).
>>
>> Protocols that are built on top of QUIC directly solve this problem by
>> negotiating versions inside the handshake that happens before any actual
>> application data is exchanged, using a mechanism called TLS ALPN (this
>> actually works for TCP too, this is how a Web server can, for instance,
>> support HTTP/1.1 and HTTP/2 at the same TCP port).  The feature in question
>> adds a similar mechanism to WebTransport, by performing an ALPN-like
>> negotiation inside the WebTransport handshake.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>   Victor.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 2:49 PM Alex Russell <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Victor,
>>>
>>> As there's no explainer, can you outline what the use-cases for protocol
>>> negotiation are? The linked part of the spec does not provide clarity as to
>>> why this is valuable, who it's valuable to, or why we should support it.
>>> That is, we are always trying to understand "*does this feature solve
>>> an important problem well?*" it isn't clear (yet) in this case.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 22, 2025 at 12:38:46 AM UTC-7 Chromestatus wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Contact emails*
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> *Explainer*
>>>> None
>>>>
>>>> *Specification*
>>>> https://w3c.github.io/webtransport/#dom-webtransportoptions-protocols
>>>>
>>>> *Summary*
>>>> WebTransport Application Protocol Negotiation allows negotiation of the
>>>> protocol used by the web application within the WebTransport handshake. A
>>>> web application can specify a list of application protocols offered when
>>>> constructing a WebTransport object, which are then conveyed to the server
>>>> via HTTP headers; if the server picks one of those protocols, it can
>>>> indicate that within response headers, and that reply is available within
>>>> the WebTransport object.
>>>>
>>>> *Blink component*
>>>> Blink>Network>WebTransport
>>>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%3ENetwork%3EWebTransport%22>
>>>>
>>>> *Web Feature ID*
>>>> webtransport <https://webstatus.dev/features/webtransport>
>>>>
>>>> *TAG review*
>>>> None
>>>>
>>>> *TAG review status*
>>>> Not applicable
>>>>
>>>> *Risks*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Interoperability and Compatibility*
>>>> The feature was designed to work cleanly with existing servers that do
>>>> not support protocol negotiation. If the server does not support
>>>> application protocol negotiation, or does not accept any of the protocols
>>>> offered, the API will return null as the selected protocol.
>>>>
>>>> *Gecko*: Positive (
>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/167) Firefox has
>>>> been positive on WebTransport, and Mozilla representatives have been
>>>> involved in the discussion regarding this flag (and have told me in the
>>>> past that I don't need to file new standards position for every spec
>>>> feature).
>>>>
>>>> *WebKit*: Support (
>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/18) Safari has
>>>> expressed support for WebTransport in general; we've not reached out
>>>> regarding this individual feature, given that Safari has not shipped
>>>> WebTransport itself.
>>>>
>>>> *Web developers*: Positive (
>>>> https://github.com/moq-wg/moq-transport/pull/499) IETF MOQ relies on
>>>> this feature for version negotiation; I've been repeatedly pinged by
>>>> multiple people there asking when Chrome is going to ship this.
>>>>
>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>
>>>> *WebView application risks*
>>>>
>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>> None
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Debuggability*
>>>> Since the negotiation is done via HTTP headers, those should be visible
>>>> through DevTools.
>>>>
>>>> *Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>>> Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?*
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>> *Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?*
>>>> Yes
>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/webtransport/connect.https.any.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>>>>
>>>> *Flag name on about://flags*
>>>> None
>>>>
>>>> *Finch feature name*
>>>> WebTransportApplicationProtocol
>>>>
>>>> *Rollout plan*
>>>> Will ship enabled for all users
>>>>
>>>> *Requires code in //chrome?*
>>>> False
>>>>
>>>> *Tracking bug*
>>>> https://issues.chromium.org/u/1/issues/416080492
>>>>
>>>> *Estimated milestones*
>>>> Shipping on desktop 142
>>>> Shipping on Android 142
>>>>
>>>> *Anticipated spec changes*
>>>>
>>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or
>>>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues
>>>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
>>>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of
>>>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way). None
>>>>
>>>> *Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status*
>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/6521719678042112?gate=4663773843161088
>>>>
>>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status
>>>> <https://chromestatus.com>.
>>>>
>>>>

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