On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 11:28 AM Rick Byers <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 2:19 PM 'Nicolás Peña Moreno' via blink-dev <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Responding for Suresh since he's OOO this week. We have UKM metrics that
>> tell us which IDPs would break today due to this change. We plan to
>> document this change through our public devrel outreach and also reach out
>> to IDPs that we detected through our metrics. While the number of sites
>> that would break today due to this is relatively high, the number of IDPs
>> is fairly small, so we are confident we can deploy once we know it would
>> cause no breakage.
>>
>
> Except we've now had at least one web compat incident due to a major RP
> who doesn't depend on an IDP-served SDK, right?
>

This change does not depend on an SDK, it is purely server-side (requires
certain fields in the well-known file)


>
> On Friday, October 17, 2025 at 1:04:59 PM UTC-4 [email protected]
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 10/17/25 10:41 a.m., suresh potti wrote:
>>>
>>> Contact emails
>>>
>>> [email protected] Specification
>>>
>>> https://github.com/w3c-fedid/FedCM/pull/760 Summary To address
>>> cross-site identity correlation risks in the FedCM API, Identity Providers
>>> (IdPs) that utilize client_metadata within their FedCM configuration
>>> are required to implement the direct endpoints format in the
>>> .well-known/web-identity file. This mandate ensures that both
>>> accounts_endpoint and login_url are explicitly defined whenever a
>>> client_metadata_endpoint is present. This approach strengthens privacy
>>> protections by preventing relying parties from exploiting metadata to
>>> correlate user identities across multiple sites. For further details and
>>> discussion, refer to https://github.com/w3c-fedid/FedCM/issues/700.
>>>
>>> Migration Plan Chrome will enforce this rule in two phases:
>>>
>>> Chrome 143 (Warning Phase): If client_metadata_endpoint exists but
>>> accounts_endpoint or login_url is missing, the browser will display
>>> console warnings. This gives IdPs time to update configurations.
>>>
>>> Chrome 145 (Enforcement Phase): The requirement becomes mandatory.
>>> FedCM configurations missing these endpoints will be blocked, preventing
>>> authentication flows.
>>>
>>> Does this apply to both passive mode and active mode? "Preventing
> authentication flows" for passive mode seems like a completely trivial 
> severity
> of breakage
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RC-pBBvsazYfCNNUSkPqAVpSpNJ96U8trhNkfV0v9fk/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.u5ya6jvru7dl>
>  since
> it just means an optional extra UI doesn't show up. But any breakage for
> active mode (where a user has just clicked on a "sign-in") button seems
> very serious. So if the latter, I think we'd want to see UseCounter data
> proving that the usage has been migrated before approving a breaking change.
>

It does apply to both, yeah.


> Blink component
>>>
>>> Blink>Identity>FedCM
>>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%3EIdentity%3EFedCM%22>
>>>
>>> Web Feature ID
>>>
>>> fedcm <https://webstatus.dev/features/fedcm>
>>>
>>> TAG review
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>> Risks
>>>
>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>
>>> IdPs failing to update .well-known/web-identity for FedCM client
>>> metadata risk breaking authentication flows. Chrome 143 issues warnings,
>>> but starting Chrome 145, missing accounts_endpoint or login_url will block
>>> configurations entirely. Immediate migration is critical to maintain
>>> compatibility and avoid service disruptions for relying parties and
>>> end-users.
>>>
>>> Similar to the previous email, can you say something about expected
>>> impact/usage here? And how confident are we that IdPs are going to be
>>> paying attention to console warnings?
>>>
>>> Gecko: No signal (Firefox does not wish to support the client metadata
>>> endpoint of the FedCM API so this would not be a change applicable to them)
>>> WebKit: No signal Web developers: No signals Other signals:
>>>
>>> WebView application risks
>>>
>>> FedCM does not work in WebView.
>>>
>>> Ongoing technical constraints
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>> Debuggability
>>>
>>> Same as other FedCM features. The network view in devtools would be
>>> especially helpful for debugging this feature.
>>>
>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>>> Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>>
>>> No, FedCM in general is not supported on webview. Supported on all other
>>> blink platforms.
>>>
>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Yes
>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/fedcm/fedcm-well-known-validation?label=experimental&label=master
>>>
>>> Flag name on about://flags
>>>
>>> fedcm-well-known-endpoint-validation
>>>
>>> Finch feature name
>>>
>>> FedCmWellKnownEndpointValidation
>>>
>>> Requires code in //chrome?
>>>
>>> False
>>>
>>> Estimated milestones
>>>
>>> Shipping on desktop
>>>
>>> 145
>>>
>>> Shipping on Android
>>>
>>> 145
>>>
>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>
>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/4614417052467200
>>>
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