LGTM3

On Wed, Nov 19, 2025 at 5:19 PM Philip Jägenstedt <[email protected]>
wrote:

> LGTM2
>
> On testing, I see that the key piece is internals.addTextMatchMarker here:
>
> https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:third_party/blink/web_tests/wpt_internal/css/support/markers.js;l=29-36;drc=f3fae8c3c1c805156cf7a5a8124db274bdd7c355
>
> Defining a WebDriver BiDi command for this is probably straightforward,
> although I'm not aware of CSS specs defining WebDriver BiDi commands in the
> style of https://w3c.github.io/webauthn/#sctn-automation. If you'd like
> to do this it would be great, but I also think it's OK to just file an
> issue at
> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aopen%20label%3Atype%3Auntestable
> and do it if there's a second feature that needs it, or a second
> implementer that requests it.
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2025 at 5:10 PM Mike Taylor <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> LGTM1
>> On 11/17/25 2:54 p.m., Stephen Chenney wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I'm finally back to this. I just spent some time looking for further
>> sources of developer and user needs for this feature.
>>
>> One use-case I had not previously appreciated is in user-facing contrast
>> adjustment for find-in-page results. With ::search-text an extension could
>> provide functionality to adjust the colors.
>>
>> I've updated the chromestatus entry to add three more developer notes:
>>
>>    - On the original CSS WG issue someone wants this to avoid conflicts
>>    with the ECMAScript spec highlights.
>>    https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3812#issuecomment-1703272181
>>    - In a discussion about find-in-page and accessibility, a "remaining
>>    challenge is "Styling Search Matches"
>>    
>> https://schepp.dev/posts/rethinking-find-in-page-accessibility-making-hidden-text-work-for-everyone/#remaining-challenges
>>    - A Mozilla user asks for the feature here:
>>    
>> https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/increased-visibility-for-current-quot-find-in-page-quot-match/idi-p/26500
>>
>>
>> WIth this in mind I will re-request API owners approval.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Stephen.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2025 at 2:10 PM Alex Russell <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Stepen,
>>>
>>> Any progress? Again, inclined to LGTM, as the arguments we've heard from
>>> other vendors to date are not compelling. If there's more to add, would be
>>> great to get it in this thread. Would like to get you unblocked.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 8:49:04 AM UTC-7 Stephen Chenney wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's quite a bit of discussion going on in the TAG and I'm (still)
>>>> waiting on feedback from the client who requested this as to their
>>>> specific use case. My goal is to improve our understanding of the
>>>> motivation because right now it's unclear how to balance the benefits vs
>>>> the risks of the feature. I have a meeting later this week to try to move
>>>> things forward. Sorry for the delay.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Stephen.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 10:09 AM Alex Russell <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Any updates here?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm inclined to LGTM this, but would feel much better about it if we
>>>>> had input from developers directly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, August 27, 2025 at 11:07:10 PM UTC+1
>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Stephen for providing more context here. Please do let us know
>>>>>> if you're able to get more developer feedback on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The way I'm looking at it, there's an important distinction between
>>>>>> possible reasons developers might want the feature. If most only want it
>>>>>> because the color schemes of their sites happen to have poor contrast 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> browsers' built-in find-in-page colors, that's a sign that maybe browsers
>>>>>> should take care of ensuring contrast so developers don't have to think
>>>>>> about this a11y problem. On the other hand, if developers want to control
>>>>>> the find-in-page colors because they want to make them fit in 
>>>>>> stylistically
>>>>>> with their page's color scheme, then that's clearly demonstrating need 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> this feature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interestingly, selection color is kind of an example in both
>>>>>> directions. If devs don't do anything with it, browsers ensure contrast
>>>>>> automatically, but authors can still control the colors if they want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, August 15, 2025 at 5:45:19 AM UTC-7 Stephen Chenney wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry for the time out. I'm still waiting for feedback from
>>>>>>> the developers who requested this, but I'll try to add some responses 
>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 12:05 PM 'Dan Clark' via blink-dev <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The API Owners discussed this today and had some concerns that the
>>>>>>>> motivation is not as clear as it could be. We'd like to better 
>>>>>>>> understand
>>>>>>>> the developer need for styling these highlights.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have TAG review now,
>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1120, and the use
>>>>>>> case seems strong to them. They had questions about Safari compat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking at the Motivation section
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/Igalia/explainers/blob/main/css/find-in-page/README.md#-motivation>
>>>>>>>>  of
>>>>>>>> the explainer, 3 StackOverflow links were given:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Someone directly asks for CSS styling of find-in-page
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>> <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50309703/css-for-browsers-find-in-page>:
>>>>>>>>    the use case is *"if a user use's their browser's find function
>>>>>>>>    to search through the table, the browser will highlight the 
>>>>>>>> matching text,
>>>>>>>>    but I want to be able to highlight the entire row if any of it's 
>>>>>>>> cells
>>>>>>>>    contain a match". *But this proposal won't solve for this; it
>>>>>>>>    only allows for things like the color/background color to be 
>>>>>>>> changed, not
>>>>>>>>    the area that the highlight covers.
>>>>>>>>    - Another direct question
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>> <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18666075/how-to-style-detect-highlighted-boxes-generated-from-browser-native-search-in-pa>:
>>>>>>>>    it's not clear why the developer wants to do this.
>>>>>>>>    - A user wants to hide find-in-page results
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>> <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/77458310/confuse-browsers-in-built-find-in-page-feature>:
>>>>>>>>    for this one the developer basically wants to disable find-on-page, 
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>    seems like something we don't want to be helping with since it 
>>>>>>>> makes things
>>>>>>>>    less accessible for users.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Yes, we don't know why the 2nd link wants styling. Regarding the
>>>>>>> last, developers can already capture the Ctrl-F and disable find in 
>>>>>>> page,
>>>>>>> and as far as I can tell the way to get custom search styling is to
>>>>>>> implement the entire find-in-page system yourself. That's not a 
>>>>>>> developer
>>>>>>> friendly solution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So these don't make a strong case to why this feature is the right
>>>>>>>> answer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the main developer concern being solved for is lack of contrast
>>>>>>>> for find results against other page content, such as in
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3812#issuecomment-1703272181,
>>>>>>>> then couldn't browsers be doing a better job of solving this problem by
>>>>>>>> default rather than pushing the burden onto developers? For example, 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> case pointed out in that issue comment
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3812#issuecomment-1703272181>
>>>>>>>> is not so bad in Safari because of Safari's greying-out of the rest of 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> page when Find is active.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our request comes from an embedder. They can apply downstream
>>>>>>> patches themselves to adjust styling, but it is cumbersome and gets
>>>>>>> more complicated when different styling is needed for different 
>>>>>>> elements.
>>>>>>> Then they are implementing this entire feature themselves. The embedder
>>>>>>> story would get more complex, I think, if the browser layer took over
>>>>>>> find-in-page, as Safari seems to do. It's also worth pointing out that a
>>>>>>> browser level solution takes away power from the site. If an author 
>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>> like what Safari is doing, they cannot do anything about it beyond a
>>>>>>> complete custom search function. This raises the difficulty for those 
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> wishing to improve the search results styling on their page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll reply some more once I get more feedback from developers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- Dan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 16, 2025 at 12:41:48 PM UTC-7 Stephen Chenney
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's no problem waiting. We're not in any big hurry and we
>>>>>>>>> slowed ourselves down anyway.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regarding WPT testing there's already
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/issues/45844 to get
>>>>>>>>> this done and we should solve the spelling/grammar issue too,
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/issues/30863. I'll ask
>>>>>>>>> around and see if anyone at Igalia has bandwidth to do this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Stephen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 11:14 AM Philip Jägenstedt <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On testing in WPT, can you look into a WebDriver BiDi command for
>>>>>>>>>> triggering find-in-page? That would enable testing this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 5:11 PM Philip Jägenstedt <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for filing
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1120! Since it
>>>>>>>>>>> was just two days ago, let's give it some time before proceeding. 
>>>>>>>>>>> +Jeffrey
>>>>>>>>>>> Yasskin if the TAG can expedite this, it would be great :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 1:43 PM Stephen Chenney <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 11:58 PM Domenic Denicola <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 10, 2025 at 4:41:12 AM UTC+9 Chromestatus
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact emails [email protected], [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Explainer https://github.com/Igalia/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> explainers/blob/main/css/find-in-page/README.md
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specification https://drafts.csswg.org/css-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pseudo-4/#selectordef-search-text
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Design docs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/Igalia/explainers/blob/main/css/find-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in-page/README.md
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exposes find-in-page search result styling to authors as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> highlight pseudo-element, like selection and spelling errors. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This allows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> authors to change the foreground and background colors or add text
>>>>>>>>>>>>> decorations, which can be especially useful if the UA defaults 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> insufficient contrast with the page colors or are otherwise 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsuitable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blink component Blink>CSS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%3ECSS%22>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Search tags search <http:///features#tags:search>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TAG review None
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TAG review status Not applicable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you explain why it is not applicable? I can't see which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exception
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/wide-review/#exceptions>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> category it might fall into.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We weren't sure because this is a feature already in the CSS
>>>>>>>>>>>> spec. I'll set up a review now, and I'll also look into the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> reviews for all
>>>>>>>>>>>> the other highlights (spelling. grammar, find-in-page etc) to see 
>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>> there's anything still actionable there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The feature is in the CSS Pseudo spec and there are no open
>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues. The behavior is designed to be implementable in Firefox 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Chrome,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but is unlikely to be viable in Safari due to highly customize UI 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find-in-page. The spec is explicit that browsers may choose not to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> implement this feature provided @supports information is correct. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Safari behavior is so different that developers are unlikely to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their styling would apply there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Gecko*: Under consideration (https://github.com/mozilla/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> standards-positions/issues/1103)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *WebKit*: No signal (https://github.com/WebKit/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> standards-positions/issues/421) Will file a request for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> position, but in spec conversations were neutral with no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expectation of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementing it themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Web developers*: Positive Developers wishing to avoid
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicts with the find-in-page colors and their page styles have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> requested
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this feature. Someone directly asks for CSS styling of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find-in-page:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50309703/css-for-browsers-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find-in-page Another direct question:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18666075/how-to-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> style-detect-highlighted-boxes-generated-from-browser-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> native-search-in-pa A developer wants to hide find-in-page
>>>>>>>>>>>>> results: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/77458310/confuse-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsers-in-built-find-in-page-feature) and could do so by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> styling them as transparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ergonomics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> None.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Activation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no way to polyfill this. There is no real challenge
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to adopting beyond awareness that the feature exists, and we will 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> producing blog postings and other social media evangelization.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no security risk. The CSS styling is available
>>>>>>>>>>>>> regardless of whether the text is search for or not, so user 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find-in-page
>>>>>>>>>>>>> queries cannot be seen by script.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> APIs, such that it has potentially high risk for Android 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WebView-based
>>>>>>>>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no security risk. The CSS styling is available
>>>>>>>>>>>>> regardless of whether the text is search for or not, so user 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find-in-page
>>>>>>>>>>>>> queries cannot be seen by script.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Windows, Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All platforms support find-in-page and could use CSS styling
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to improve legibility on some sites.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Testing is in wpt_internal tests due to a lack of wpt support
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for adding find-in-page markers. third_party/blink/web_tests/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wpt_internal/css/css-pseudo/search-text-*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DevTrial instructions https://github.com/Igalia/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> explainers/blob/main/css/find-in-page/README.md
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flag name on about://flags Experimental Web Platform Features
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finch feature name SearchTextHighlightPseudo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rollout plan Will ship enabled for all users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome? False
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tracking bug https://issues.chromium.org/issues/339298411
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Measurement We will implement UseCounters for this pseudo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> element (and all the other too, see
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.chromium.org/issues/381093928)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Availability expectation Available in Chrome, and Firefox.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not available in Safari
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adoption expectation Hard to predict and not relevant to most
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sites
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adoption plan Blog posts and developer outreach
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Non-OSS dependencies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the feature depend on any code or APIs outside the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chromium open source repository and its open-source dependencies 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> function?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones Shipping on desktop 140 DevTrial on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop 135 Shipping on Android 140 DevTrial on Android 135 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shipping
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on WebView 140
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web
>>>>>>>>>>>>> compat or interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> known
>>>>>>>>>>>>> github issues in the project for the feature specification) whose
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution may introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to naming
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or structure of the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5195073796177920?gate=
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5047118541881344
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Links to previous Intent discussions Intent to Prototype:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> c447ed4dfd05b588e2afc650277371fd%40igalia.com
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