LGTM2

On Wed, Nov 26, 2025 at 8:15 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> LGTM1
>
> The main concerns I heard at TPAC were around the restrictions potentially
> being too restrictive, and/or lack of adoption as a result. I think we can
> evolve the feature regarding the former if it turns out to be necessary.
> And the best way to find out about the latter is to ship :)
>
> On Friday, November 21, 2025 at 1:43:37 PM UTC+1 Chromestatus wrote:
>
>> *Contact emails*
>> [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
>>
>> *Explainer*
>> https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/blob/main/explainer.md
>> https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/blob/main/geolocation_explainer.md
>>
>> *Specification*
>> https://wicg.github.io/PEPC/permission-elements.html
>>
>> *Design docs*
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GyDZ9gq5ckrpLEr0l1xLM1kR-mxqWrS6LapwVa0mCLA/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.bat9awopsp53
>>
>> *Summary*
>> Introduces the <geolocation> element, a declarative, user-activated
>> control for accessing the user's location. It streamlines the user and
>> developer journey by not only handling the permission flow but also
>> directly providing location data to the site, often eliminating the need
>> for a separate JavaScript API call. This addresses the long-standing
>> problem of permission prompts being triggered directly from JavaScript
>> without a strong signal of user intent. By embedding a browser-controlled
>> element in the page, the user's click provides a clear, intentional signal.
>> This enables a much better prompt UX and, crucially, provides a simple
>> recovery path for users who have previously denied the permission. Note:
>> This feature was previously developed and tested in an Origin Trial as the
>> more generic <permission> element. Based on feedback from developers and
>> other browser vendors, it has evolved into the capability-specific
>> <geolocation> element to provide a more tailored and powerful developer
>> experience. Explainer:
>> https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/blob/main/geolocation_explainer.md
>> Instructions: https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/blob/main/HOWTO.md
>>
>> *Blink component*
>> UI>Browser>Permissions>Prompts
>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22UI%3EBrowser%3EPermissions%3EPrompts%22>
>>
>> *Web Feature ID*
>> permissions <https://webstatus.dev/features/permissions>
>>
>> *Motivation*
>> The current web permission model for geolocation relies on
>> JavaScript-triggered prompts, giving the user agent no strong signal of
>> user intent. This results in out-of-context prompts, user frustration, and
>> difficult-to-recover-from denial states. We propose the <geolocation>
>> element, a semantic HTML control with browser-controlled content and strict
>> styling constraints. These constraints are fundamental to the security
>> model, ensuring a very high level of confidence in the user's intent when
>> making a permission decision at both the site and OS level. Crucially, the
>> <geolocation> element evolves beyond simply managing permissions; it
>> streamlines the entire journey by also directly providing location data to
>> the site. This often eliminates the need for separate JavaScript API calls,
>> simplifying implementation and creating a more seamless user flow. By
>> providing a clear, consistent, in-page control, this element solves
>> significant user problems related to context blindness and "permission
>> regret," offering a simple recovery path from a previously denied state.
>> The combination of a user-initiated element and a subsequent
>> browser-controlled confirmation UI enhances intent capture, improves
>> accessibility, and prevents manipulative patterns, providing a
>> significantly better experience for both users and developers.
>>
>> *Initial public proposal*
>> https://github.com/WICG/proposals/issues/113
>>
>> *TAG review*
>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1079
>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1140
>>
>> *TAG review status*
>> Issues addressed
>>
>> *Origin Trial Name*
>> Page-embedded Permission Control (Camera/Mic)
>>
>> *Chromium Trial Name*
>> PermissionElement
>>
>> *Origin Trial documentation link*
>> https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/blob/main/explainer.md
>>
>> *WebFeature UseCounter name*
>> kHTMLPermissionElement
>>
>> *Risks*
>>
>>
>> *Interoperability and Compatibility*
>> There is a risk that this feature fails to be adopted by other browsers.
>> This can be mitigated by backwards designing a reasonable fallback
>> mechanism so that the element can degrade gracefully if the it's in an
>> unsupported environment.
>>
>> *Gecko*: Positive (
>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1288)
>>
>> *WebKit*: No signal (
>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/545#issuecomment-3345403375
>> )
>>
>> *Web developers*: Positive (https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/issues/59)
>> https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/issues/2#issuecomment-2393820279
>> https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/issues/2#issuecomment-2393861768
>> https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/issues/2#issuecomment-2393911331
>> https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/issues/2#issuecomment-2619657041
>>
>> *Other signals*:
>>
>> *Ergonomics*
>> No foreseen ergonomics risks.
>>
>> *Activation*
>> A polyfill can help developers use this feature without risking broken
>> functionality on non-supporting browsers.
>>
>> *Security*
>> https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/blob/main/explainer.md#Security
>>
>> *WebView application risks*
>>
>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that
>> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>> Feature is not shipping on WebView due to it requiring permission manager
>> embedder support.
>>
>>
>> *Debuggability*
>> *No information provided*
>>
>> *Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>> Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?*
>> No
>> The Geolocation Element is not supported on Android WebView as it
>> requires permission manager support to function and the WebView permission
>> manager defers most permission decisions to the embedder by design.
>>
>> *Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?*
>> Yes
>> https://wpt.fyi/results/html/semantics/permission-element
>>
>> *DevTrial instructions*
>> https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/blob/main/HOWTO.md
>>
>> *Flag name on about://flags*
>> *No information provided*
>>
>> *Finch feature name*
>> GeolocationElement
>>
>> *Rollout plan*
>> Will ship enabled for all users
>>
>> *Requires code in //chrome?*
>> True
>>
>> *Tracking bug*
>> https://b.corp.google.com/issues/435351699
>>
>> *Launch bug*
>> https://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4428191
>>
>> *Availability expectation*
>> Feature is available only in Chromium browsers. We are not aware of other
>> browsers adoption.
>>
>> *Adoption expectation*
>> Feature is used by specific partner(s) to provide functionality within 12
>> months of launch in Chrome. Partners who are tested the feature in OT are
>> expected to continue usage.
>>
>> *Adoption plan*
>> We are planning to publish on developer.chrome.com and do further
>> partner outreach
>>
>> *Non-OSS dependencies*
>>
>> Does the feature depend on any code or APIs outside the Chromium open
>> source repository and its open-source dependencies to function?
>> No
>>
>> *Estimated milestones*
>> Shipping on desktop 144
>> Origin trial desktop first 126
>> Origin trial desktop last 131
>> Origin trial extension 1 end milestone 134
>> Origin trial extension 2 end milestone 137
>> Origin trial extension 3 end milestone 140
>> Origin trial extension 4 end milestone 143
>> DevTrial on desktop 121
>> Shipping on Android 144
>> Origin trial Android first 134
>> DevTrial on Android 134
>>
>> *Anticipated spec changes*
>>
>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or
>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues
>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of
>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>> NA
>>
>> *Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status*
>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5125006551416832?gate=5202152317779968
>>
>> *Links to previous Intent discussions*
>> Intent to Prototype:
>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/TGsrhP4ref0/m/bHFj3id9AgAJ?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer
>> Ready for Trial:
>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/D-mE5qIlkWY
>> Intent to Experiment:
>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAFuQ4YuA5Fskj1QyrzL%2BXpZdQGe_vCu-wQjgqqhDwazC0Rr4FA%40mail.gmail.com
>> Intent to Extend Experiment 1:
>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CALTCLq7M2xaMvR4xFUk29gAsLLUcmWBFqgKhwQfADrf%3DmniNHg%40mail.gmail.com
>> Intent to Extend Experiment 2:
>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/679cc50c.2b0a0220.243291.0754.GAE%40google.com
>> Intent to Extend Experiment 3:
>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/685d0e00.170a0220.291021.0232.GAE%40google.com
>> Intent to Extend Experiment 4:
>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/z2ikrqboP3o
>>
>>
>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status
>> <https://chromestatus.com>.
>>
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