LGTM2, conditioned on filing standards position requests for Mozilla and
Webkit.

On Wed, Dec 17, 2025 at 8:24 AM Alex Russell <[email protected]>
wrote:

> LGTM1 with a nit: did y'all ask Mozilla about their position or file a
> position request? Would be good form.
>
> Best,
>
> Alex
>
> On Monday, December 15, 2025 at 9:00:41 AM UTC-8 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Done
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 6:39 AM Mike Taylor <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Would you mind requesting the privacy, security, debuggability, etc bits
>>> in your chromestatus entry?
>>>
>>> thx
>>> On 12/12/25 1:18 p.m., Chromestatus wrote:
>>>
>>> *Contact emails*
>>> [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
>>>
>>> *Explainer*
>>>
>>> https://github.com/WICG/manifest-incubations/blob/gh-pages/predictable-app-updating.md
>>>
>>> *Specification*
>>> https://www.w3.org/TR/appmanifest/#updating
>>>
>>> *Summary*
>>> Specify an update eligibility algorithm in the manifest spec. This makes
>>> the update process more deterministic and predictable, giving the dev more
>>> control over whether (and when) updates should apply to existing
>>> installations, and allowing removal of the 'update check throttle' that
>>> user agents currently need to implement to avoid wasting network resources.
>>>
>>> *Blink component*
>>> Blink>AppManifest
>>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%3EAppManifest%22>
>>>
>>> *Web Feature ID*
>>> manifest <https://webstatus.dev/features/manifest>
>>>
>>> *Motivation*
>>> - Consistency: Provide a consistent way to detect when a manifest update
>>> should happen. - Preventing unnecessary user interruption: Users should not
>>> see an update dialog more than necessary to confirm security-sensitive
>>> changes. - User agent flexibility: It should be possible for users agents
>>> to use their judgement to block updates for known bad sites, allow known
>>> trusted apps to update without UX, or allow tiny visual changes to icons
>>> without requiring UX. - Developer control: Developers should have more
>>> control over when the update dialog may show to users. - Reduce network
>>> traffic: Unnecessary network traffic should be minimized.
>>>
>>> *Initial public proposal*
>>> https://www.w3.org/2022/09/13-webapps-minutes.html#t02
>>>
>>> *Search tags*
>>> pwa <http:///features#tags:pwa>, update <http:///features#tags:update>,
>>> manifest <http:///features#tags:manifest>, manifest update
>>> <http:///features#tags:manifest%20update>, pwa update
>>> <http:///features#tags:pwa%20update>
>>>
>>> *TAG review*
>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1076
>>>
>>> *TAG review status*
>>> Issues addressed
>>>
>>> *Risks*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Interoperability and Compatibility*
>>> *No information provided*
>>>
>>> *Gecko*: No signal
>>>
>>> *WebKit*: Positive (
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QDqllh8inOcIkTrblERm4HRKYh8Ce9Lu5S7WhOygs_0/edit?tab=t.0#bookmark=id.b76fa6xoh2i9)
>>>  Agreement
>>> on update approach with WebKit part of the discussion.
>>>
>>> *Web developers*: Positive (
>>> https://www.w3.org/2022/09/13-webapps-minutes.html#t02) Discussions at
>>> TPAC 2022 and 2023 involved active discussion with developers, with a
>>> positive consensus.
>>>
>>> *Other signals*:
>>>
>>> *WebView application risks*
>>>
>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>> N/A, feature isn't launching on Android.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Debuggability*
>>> *No information provided*
>>>
>>> *Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>> Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?*
>>> No
>>>
>>> *Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?*
>>> No
>>>
>>>
>>> *Flag name on about://flags*
>>> chrome://flags/#enable-web-app-predictable-app-updating
>>>
>>> *Finch feature name*
>>> DesktopPWAsPredictableAppUpdating
>>>
>>> *Rollout plan*
>>> Will ship enabled for all users
>>>
>>> *Requires code in //chrome?*
>>> True
>>>
>>> *Tracking bug*
>>> https://issues.chromium.org/issues/403253129
>>>
>>> *Launch bug*
>>> https://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4393456
>>>
>>> *Availability expectation*
>>> Feature is available only in Chrome.
>>>
>>> *Adoption expectation*
>>> This feature paves the way for PWA app migration [1], which is an ask by
>>> both first party and third party vendors as an essential feature for PWAs (
>>> crbug.com/380486617). [1]
>>> https://github.com/WICG/manifest-incubations/blob/gh-pages/pwa-migration-explainer.md
>>>
>>> *Non-OSS dependencies*
>>>
>>> Does the feature depend on any code or APIs outside the Chromium open
>>> source repository and its open-source dependencies to function?
>>> N/A
>>>
>>> *Estimated milestones*
>>> Shipping on desktop 143
>>> DevTrial on desktop 143
>>>
>>> *Anticipated spec changes*
>>>
>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or
>>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues
>>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
>>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of
>>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>>> N/A, anticipated spec changes will not be introducing interop risks.
>>> Changes are being made on Chrome's end to make PWAs more safer.
>>>
>>> *Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status*
>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5148463647686656?gate=5181792593903616
>>>
>>> *Links to previous Intent discussions*
>>> Intent to Prototype:
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CA%2B4qT31vY-P2d2e%2Be5F101d_e%2B%3DOEE-%2BnbqxtqHSboeiJFqKOQ%40mail.gmail.com
>>>
>>>
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