Sorry, LGTM2 % requesting the missing Testing bit in your chromestatus entry.

On 4/21/26 10:24 a.m., Mike Taylor wrote:

LGTM2

On 4/21/26 6:52 a.m., Rick Byers wrote:
Perfect, thanks for the answers and cleanups! LGTM1 to ship.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2026 at 1:52 PM Thomas Nguyen <[email protected]> wrote:

    Thank you for reviewing this.

        Note that web-exposed features typically live under the
        'Blink' component, and they get some extra love (like an
        extra expert triage rotation
        <https://www.chromium.org/blink/blink-triaging/>) to help
        ensure web devs are getting fast and helpful responses and
        that important externally-reported regressions don't get
        missed. Bugs under 'Internals' are normally assumed to not
        contain important externally-reported issues. As long as your
        team is on top of your bug triage (eg. would notice within
        1-2 days if someone filed a bug there saying a change broke
        their website) then it's not a big deal, may not be worth the
        hassle of moving. Regardless, does not need to block this
intent IMHO.
    Thanks for the input. Component UI>Browser>Permissions>, or
    UI>Browser>Permissions>Prompts makes more sense, aligning the
    experience with the existing behavior of the <geolocation> element

        Since this is a distinct feature we'd want to track usage of
        independently, it should have a distinct feature ID. Please
        file an issue here
        
<https://github.com/web-platform-dx/web-features/issues/new?template=new-feature.yml>
 and
        just tag it as missing for now.

     Filed an issue
    <https://github.com/web-platform-dx/web-features/issues/3972>,
    with /feature definition/ tag (I could not find missing tag)

        There's also a more specific review request
        <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1218> a
        couple weeks ago. Probably its the one you should list in
        chromestatus for this feature (and it links to the related
        prior ones anyway). No need to block this I2S, but of course
        we expect that you'll engage with any feedback that comes
        there in parallel.

    Regarding the TAG review, thanks for catching that, I
    accidentally provided the old link.

        It looks like you have just a 50% pass rate (8/16) on the
        dashboard right now. Has someone done a triage pass over
        these failures? Perhaps some of these tests are passing in
        Chrome infra but failing on wpt.fyi?
        Getting all the tests passing doesn't need to block I2S, but
        we want to make sure we understand the current and likely
        future state of the tests since it's a proxy for maturity and
        spec conformance, and is really valuable for any other
implementations to follow.
    As for the WPT results, you are exactly right. Those tests pass
    in Chrome infra but are failing on wpt.fyi (error: secure context
    required). I have a CL in progress to rename the tests to
    .https.html, it will likely take 1–2 days for the changes to sync
    and for the dashboard to reflect the updated results.

    On Mon, Apr 20, 2026 at 1:56 AM Rick Byers <[email protected]>
    wrote:

        I'm excited to see this ship! I see this as another important
        use of the PEPC technology to better enable the browser to be
        an effective intermediary between the site and the user. Just
        a few nits and questions:

        On Wed, Apr 15, 2026, 10:32 a.m. Chromestatus
        <[email protected]> wrote:

            *Contact emails*
            [email protected], [email protected]

            *Explainer*
            https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/blob/main/usermedia_element.md

            *Specification*
            https://wicg.github.io/PEPC/permission-elements.html

            *Summary*
            Usermedia Capability Element, is a declarative,
            user-activated control for accessing the starting and
            interacting with media streams. This addresses the
            long-standing problem of permission prompts being
            triggered directly from JavaScript without a strong
            signal of user intent. By embedding a browser-controlled
            element in the page, the user's click provides a clear,
            intentional signal. This enables a much better prompt UX
            and, crucially, provides a simple recovery path for users
            who have previously denied the permission. Note: This
            feature was previously developed and tested in an Origin
            Trial as the more generic <permission> element. Based on
            feedback from developers and other browser vendors, it
            has evolved into capability-specific elements to provide
            a more tailored and powerful developer experience.

            *Blink component*
            Public Trackers > Chromium Public Trackers > Chromium >
            Internals > Permissions > PermissionElement
            
<https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Public%20Trackers%20%3E%20Chromium%20Public%20Trackers%20%3E%20Chromium%20%3E%20Internals%20%3E%20Permissions%20%3E%20PermissionElement%22>


        Note that web-exposed features typically live under the
        'Blink' component, and they get some extra love (like an
        extra expert triage rotation
        <https://www.chromium.org/blink/blink-triaging/>) to help
        ensure web devs are getting fast and helpful responses and
        that important externally-reported regressions don't get
        missed. Bugs under 'Internals' are normally assumed to not
        contain important externally-reported issues. As long as your
        team is on top of your bug triage (eg. would notice within
        1-2 days if someone filed a bug there saying a change broke
        their website) then it's not a big deal, may not be worth the
        hassle of moving. Regardless, does not need to block this
        intent IMHO.

            *Web Feature ID*
            permissions <https://webstatus.dev/features/permissions>


        Since this is a distinct feature we'd want to track usage of
        independently, it should have a distinct feature ID. Please
        file an issue here
        
<https://github.com/web-platform-dx/web-features/issues/new?template=new-feature.yml>
 and
        just tag it as missing for now.

            *Motivation*
            The current web permission model for interacting with
            user media relies on JavaScript-triggered prompts, giving
            the user agent no strong signal of user intent. This
            results in out-of-context prompts, user frustration, and
            difficult-to-recover-from denial states. We propose the
            <usermedia> element, or a suite of elements. This will be
            semantic HTML control with browser-controlled content and
            strict styling constraints. These constraints are
            fundamental to the security model, ensuring a very high
            level of confidence in the user's intent when making a
            permission decision at both the site and OS level.
            Crucially, the <usermedia> element evolves beyond simply
            managing permissions; it streamlines the entire journey
            by also facilitating starting and interacting with media
            streams. This often eliminates the need for separate
            JavaScript API calls, simplifying implementation and
            creating a more seamless user flow. By providing a clear,
            consistent, in-page control, this element solves
            significant user problems related to context blindness
            and "permission regret," offering a simple recovery path
            from a previously denied state. The combination of a
            user-initiated element and a subsequent
            browser-controlled confirmation UI enhances intent
            capture, improves accessibility, and prevents
            manipulative patterns, providing a significantly better
            experience for both users and developers.

            *Initial public proposal*
            https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/issues/62

            *TAG review*
            https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1079


        There's also a more specific review request
        <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1218> a
        couple weeks ago. Probably its the one you should list in
        chromestatus for this feature (and it links to the related
        prior ones anyway). No need to block this I2S, but of course
        we expect that you'll engage with any feedback that comes
        there in parallel.

            *TAG review status*
            Issues addressed

            *Origin Trial Name*
            UserMediaElement

            *Goals for experimentation*
            This Origin Trial serves two primary purposes: ensuring
            continuity for existing partners who have successfully
            integrated this pattern, and providing a platform to
            validate and iterate on the new, capability-specific
            <usermedia> element. While our previous Origin Trial for
            <permission> provided strong evidence for the core
            user-initiated model, feedback from developers and
            browser vendors prompted us to evolve the design. This
            new trial is essential for gathering insights on a
            refined, data-centric API shape to help us reach
            cross-browser consensus. To ensure a seamless transition
            and prevent disruption for our valued OT partners, this
            trial will initially launch with an API shape that is
            functionally equivalent to the previous <permission>
            trial, simply using the new <usermedia> element name.
            This provides a stable foundation from which we will
            iterate based on further discussion. Our goal is to
            evolve this element towards our proposed data-centric
            design
            (https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/blob/main/usermedia_element.md).
            However, we recognize that this more advanced API has
            raised compatibility and complexity concerns with
            developers (https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/issues/62).
            Therefore, a primary objective of this trial is to work
            closely with the community to address these concerns and
            refine the final API. TPAC WebRTC minutes
            https://www.w3.org/2025/11/11-webrtc-minutes.html#551

            *Chromium Trial Name*
            UserMediaElement

            *Origin Trial documentation link*
            https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/blob/main/usermedia_element.md

            *WebFeature UseCounter name*
            kHTMLPermissionElement

            *Risks*


            *Interoperability and Compatibility*
            There is a risk that this feature fails to be adopted by
            other browsers. This can be mitigated by backwards
            designing a reasonable fallback mechanism so that the
            element can degrade gracefully if the it's in an
            unsupported environment.

            /Gecko/: Under
            consideration 
(https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1245)

            /WebKit/: No signal

            /Web developers/: Positive
            https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/issues/2#issuecomment-2393820279
            https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/issues/2#issuecomment-2393861768
            https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/issues/2#issuecomment-2393911331
            https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/issues/2#issuecomment-2619657041
            https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/issues/62#issuecomment-3482975001
            https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/issues/62#issuecomment-3482981942
            https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/issues/62#issuecomment-3498355775
            https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/issues/62#issuecomment-3513734884

            /Other signals/:

            *Ergonomics*
            No foreseen ergonomics risks.

            *Activation*
            A polyfill can help developers use this feature without
            risking broken functionality on non-supporting browsers.

            *Security*
            https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/blob/main/explainer.md#Security

            *WebView application risks*

            Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing
            APIs, such that it has potentially high risk for Android
            WebView-based applications?

            Feature is not shipping on WebView due to it requiring
            permission manager embedder support.


            *Debuggability*
            The element raises issues to the devtools issues panel
            which help developers debug issues with their usage of
            the element.

            *Will this feature be supported on all six Blink
            platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and
            Android WebView)?*
            No
            The element is not supported on Android WebView as it
            requires permission manager support to function and the
            WebView permission manager defers most permission
            decisions to the embedder by design.

            *Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
            
<https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?*
            Yes
            https://wpt.fyi/results/html/semantics/permission-element/usermedia


        It looks like you have just a 50% pass rate (8/16) on the
        dashboard right now. Has someone done a triage pass over
        these failures? Perhaps some of these tests are passing in
        Chrome infra but failing on wpt.fyi?

        Getting all the tests passing doesn't need to block I2S, but
        we want to make sure we understand the current and likely
        future state of the tests since it's a proxy for maturity and
        spec conformance, and is really valuable for any other
        implementations to follow.

            *DevTrial instructions*
            https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/blob/main/HOWTO.md#enabling-usermedia

            *Flag name on about://flags*
            /No information provided/

            *Finch feature name*
            UserMediaElement

            *Rollout plan*
            Will ship enabled for all users

            *Requires code in //chrome?*
            True

            *Tracking bug*
            https://crbug.com/443013457

            *Availability expectation*
            Feature is available only in Chromium browsers. We are
            not aware of other browsers adoption.

            *Adoption expectation*
            Feature is used by specific partner(s) to provide
            functionality within 12 months of launch in Chrome.
            Partners who are tested the feature in OT are expected to
            continue usage.

            *Adoption plan*
            We are planning to publish on developer.chrome.com
            <https://developer.chrome.com> and do further partner
            outreach

            *Non-OSS dependencies*

            Does the feature depend on any code or APIs outside the
            Chromium open source repository and its open-source
            dependencies to function?

            No

            *Estimated milestones*
            Shipping on desktop         149
            Origin trial desktop first  144
            Origin trial desktop last   148
            DevTrial on desktop         144
            Shipping on Android         149
            Origin trial Android first  144
            Origin trial Android last   148
            DevTrial on Android         144



            *Anticipated spec changes*

            Open questions about a feature may be a source of future
            web compat or interop issues. Please list open issues
            (e.g. links to known github issues in the project for the
            feature specification) whose resolution may introduce web
            compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or
            structure of the API in a non-backward-compatible way).

            This is an MVP launch. The MVP feature is fully
            functional and used by developers right now. We are
            working closely with the WebRTC on post-MVP features, the
            open topics will based on the foundation of the MVP, that
            we agreed upon with the WebRTC. Some of the open topics
            are for example: In the future, we might want to add a
            parameter to the getUserMedia algorithm so that the
            algorithm can determine whether the getUserMedia is
            called from the <usermedia> element or getUserMedia API.
            Potential to add additional attributes for <usermedia>
            interface. We're putting finishing touches on the spec
            now, work-in-progress PR is here, but once that lands we
            want to ship for M149 so wanted to start the discussion now.

            *Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status*
            
https://chromestatus.com/feature/4926233538330624?gate=6467532078841856

            *Links to previous Intent discussions*
            Intent to Prototype:
            
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/692719de.050a0220.17ec37.00c3.GAE%40google.com
            Intent to Experiment:
            
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/6942ed09.050a0220.1050d6.0961.GAE%40google.com


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