LGTM3

On Wed, Aug 26, 2026, 10:52 Daniel Bratell <[email protected]> wrote:

> LGTM2
>
> /Daniel
> On 2026-08-26 12:21, Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) wrote:
>
> LGTM1
>
> On Wednesday, August 26, 2026 at 10:02:53 AM UTC+2 [email protected]
> wrote:
>
>> FWIW as developers of the browser game engine Construct (
>> https://www.construct.net/) we want this to be able to optimize 3D
>> rendering in WebGPU. We already use EXT_conservative_depth in the WebGL
>> renderer where available, and this brings the same feature to WebGPU.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 at 04:14, 'dan sinclair' via blink-dev <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> There are signals, but indirectly. Developers have requested having
>>> access to early-z-test (
>>> https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/issues/4891#issuecomment-3341897141).
>>> But, if you write to the `frag_depth` it will disable the early-z test.
>>> Adding the `less` or `greater` attribute allows the fragment shader to
>>> write to the fragment depth, while maintaining the early-z optimization
>>> because the shader knows you're only writing in the depth in a given
>>> direction.
>>>
>>> So, while developers did not specifically comment on this, it is a
>>> component of providing a comprehensive early-z feature in the future.
>>>
>>> dan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 2:54 PM Alex Russell <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are there really no signals from developers? Is nobody asking for this?
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 24, 2026 at 9:03:33 AM UTC-7 Chromestatus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *Contact emails*
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>> *Explainer*
>>>>> https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/blob/main/proposals/fragment-depth.md
>>>>>
>>>>> *Specification*
>>>>> https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/pull/6299
>>>>>
>>>>> *Summary*
>>>>> Adds the ability to provide a `less` or `greater` modifier to the
>>>>> `@builtin(frag_depth)` in WGSL. The current `@builtin(frag_depth)` can
>>>>> potentially introduce a performance penalty due to disabling the early-Z
>>>>> optimizations on a draw call. The new modifiers allow the explicit setting
>>>>> of the buffer mode and allow the early-Z optimizations to be applied.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Blink component*
>>>>> Blink>WebGPU
>>>>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%3EWebGPU%22>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Web Feature ID*
>>>>> webgpu <https://webstatus.dev/features/webgpu>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Motivation*
>>>>> In the current WGSL specification, the mere act of writing to
>>>>> @builtin(frag_depth) often incurs a significant performance penalty 
>>>>> because
>>>>> driver heuristics cannot guarantee that the fragment shader output will
>>>>> adhere to the depth written by the rasterizer's interpolated depth.
>>>>> Consequently, writing to frag_depth typically forces the GPU to disable
>>>>> crucial early-Z optimizations for the entire draw call. The introduction 
>>>>> of
>>>>> a new depth_mode built-in parameter for the @builtin(frag_depth) with 
>>>>> modes
>>>>> less, and greater directly addressing this performance limitation by
>>>>> letting the developer express their intent to the hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Initial public proposal*
>>>>> https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/blob/main/proposals/fragment-depth.md
>>>>>
>>>>> *TAG review*
>>>>> *No information provided*
>>>>>
>>>>> *TAG review status*
>>>>> Pending
>>>>>
>>>>> *Goals for experimentation*
>>>>> None
>>>>>
>>>>> *Risks*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Interoperability and Compatibility*
>>>>> This feature has been approved in W3C GPU for the Web WG meetings
>>>>> including participants from Safari and Firefox.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Gecko*: No signal (https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/pull/6299) Feedback
>>>>> indicated via WebGPU standardization process.
>>>>>
>>>>> *WebKit*: Positive (https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/pull/6299) 
>>>>> Specification
>>>>> approval constitutes a positive signal, per
>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/294#issuecomment-1877411933
>>>>>
>>>>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>>>>
>>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>>
>>>>> *WebView application risks*
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>>> *No information provided*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Debuggability*
>>>>> *No information provided*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>>>> Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?*
>>>>> Yes
>>>>> All platforms will eventually have support. Will immediately be
>>>>> available on Android, Android WebView, ChromeOS, Mac, and Windows, where
>>>>> hardware support is available. Linux is planned to have WebGPU support in
>>>>> the future, so this feature will become available when WebGPU does.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?*
>>>>> Yes
>>>>> WebGPU/WGSL have a conformance test suite (
>>>>> https://github.com/gpuweb/cts) that is regularly pulled into Chromium
>>>>> and part of the testing of Dawn/Tint in Chromium. While the CTS can be
>>>>> embedded in WPT, the WebGPU team opted to keep it separate in Chromium
>>>>> testing to use a customized harness for robustness and performance. *
>>>>> https://github.com/gpuweb/cts/pull/4679 *
>>>>> https://github.com/gpuweb/cts/pull/4689
>>>>>
>>>>> *Flag name on about://flags*
>>>>> *No information provided*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Finch feature name*
>>>>> WebGPU
>>>>>
>>>>> *Rollout plan*
>>>>> Will ship enabled for all users
>>>>>
>>>>> *Requires code in //chrome?*
>>>>> False
>>>>>
>>>>> *Tracking bug*
>>>>> https://crbug.com/457993779
>>>>>
>>>>> *Estimated milestones*
>>>>>
>>>>> No milestones specified
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Anticipated spec changes*
>>>>>
>>>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or
>>>>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues
>>>>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
>>>>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure 
>>>>> of
>>>>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>>>>> *No information provided*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status*
>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5663304168112128?gate=5657119415205888
>>>>>
>>>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status
>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com>.
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "blink-dev" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>>> an email to [email protected].
>>> To view this discussion visit
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAMYH%3DOjE5-Yj2G7mX%2B50RANTVgxuCPyon3-yDgEPgskbQddwWQ%40mail.gmail.com
>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAMYH%3DOjE5-Yj2G7mX%2B50RANTVgxuCPyon3-yDgEPgskbQddwWQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
>>> .
>>>
>> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "blink-dev" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to [email protected].
> To view this discussion visit
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/f68eb079-aed8-4005-9fa6-6fbc4ebff73cn%40chromium.org
> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/f68eb079-aed8-4005-9fa6-6fbc4ebff73cn%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
> .
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "blink-dev" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to [email protected].
> To view this discussion visit
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/7718c9c8-91a9-41ef-a2f8-7a26175ce36d%40gmail.com
> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/7718c9c8-91a9-41ef-a2f8-7a26175ce36d%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
> .
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"blink-dev" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
To view this discussion visit 
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CADsXd2NP%2Bg39kzU90H8iNi96%3DyUo-rc%3Db7FYbs5fnCpE2y1tQw%40mail.gmail.com.

Reply via email to