Thank you for working through these! LGTM3

On Monday, October 19, 2026 at 9:48:08 AM UTC-7 [email protected] 
wrote:

> Hi Dan! Thanks for the feedback. We've completed our review of the open 
> spec issues and completed the following PRs. [1] contains the bulk of the 
> issues.
> [1] https://github.com/WICG/install-element/pull/42 (Merged)
> [2] https://github.com/WICG/install-element/pull/40 (Merged)
>
> We identified a handful of issues as needing pre-ship code changes -- 
> those are listed in the description of [1]. Six of the CLs have merged in 
> Chromium, and three more are in progress.
>
> We are planning to open one last spec PR for the tail end of the issues, 
> which I'll make sure to merge before anything ships.
>
> Thanks!
> Lia
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2026 at 8:17:33 AM UTC-7 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>> Looking through https://wicg.github.io/install-element I see 36 Issues 
>> noted in the spec. Do any of these need to be followed up on before this 
>> should ship? At least some look like potential enhancements, which we 
>> needn't block for. But are there any that could lead to compat-affecting 
>> changes for what'd be shipping with this Intent or the Web Install API 
>> Intent?
>>
>> -- Dan
>> On Wednesday, September 30, 2026 at 9:13:36 AM UTC-7 Philip Jägenstedt 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I took another look and it looks like the reflected attributes can 
>>> return null:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/1b81534c42533f63bf293db633598f9ff9ab6aba/html/semantics/permission-element/install/install-element-url-attributes.tentative.html#L10-L15
>>>
>>> That never happens for other HTML elements with reflected URL attributes 
>>> AFAICT, so I think this is also important to change as it's part of the API 
>>> surface.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2026 at 5:51 PM Philip Jägenstedt <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> LGTM2
>>>>
>>>> Can you please file an issue on https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues 
>>>> about integrating this into the HTML spec if implementer interest from 
>>>> Gecko or WebKit materializes?
>>>>
>>>> I looked over the spec with a "what if this were a HTML PR" lens and 
>>>> filed these two issues:
>>>> https://github.com/WICG/install-element/issues/36
>>>> https://github.com/WICG/install-element/issues/37
>>>>
>>>> At least the first is about the API shape, so if you agree can please 
>>>> you make that change to spec and impl before shipping? (For the second I'm 
>>>> not sure if null is ever returned by the implementation, and if not it's 
>>>> just a matter of clearer Web IDL types.)
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2026 at 5:03 PM Rick Byers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LGTM1
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the install API 
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/6pb1UvLMXko?e=48417069>,
>>>>>  
>>>>> I believe all API owner requirements have been met.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is exactly the sort of scenario capability elements were designed 
>>>>> for: they give us a mechanism that is both user-initiated and 
>>>>> browser-UI-controlled while also enabling site developers to PLACE and 
>>>>> TIME 
>>>>> the UI appropriately for their application.  From all the evidence and 
>>>>> public 
>>>>> debate 
>>>>> <https://open-web-advocacy.org/apple-dma-review/#implement-web-app-install-prompts-for-ios-safari-and-wKWebView-browsers>
>>>>>  
>>>>> I have seen (including Safari's rich support for promoting native app 
>>>>> install 
>>>>> <https://developer.apple.com/documentation/webkit/promoting-apps-with-smart-app-banners>),
>>>>>  
>>>>> I believe WebKit's opposition to this has more to do with what's best for 
>>>>> Apple's business model than what's in the best interest of users and 
>>>>> developers of the web. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 11:38 AM 'Lia Hiscock' via blink-dev <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *Contact emails*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Explainer*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://aka.ms/installelement
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Specification*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://wicg.github.io/install-element
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Design docs*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rGvLhD4SR8Y9M1wVmqgyesPNkbZGU7HOqlttjEFJ5Vo/edit?tab=t.tmx19oox759l#heading=h.j3tt49hqiuck
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Summary*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Triggers a request for the browser to install a web app, given a 
>>>>>> manifest URL and optional manifest ID. The <install> element enables 
>>>>>> cross-origin web app installation without JavaScript and provides a 
>>>>>> better 
>>>>>> developer experience than handling beforeinstallprompt events. The 
>>>>>> element is proposed to ship together with navigator.install(), the 
>>>>>> imperative entry point to the same installation capability: 
>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5183481574850560
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enterprises can control this in two ways - (1) Enterprise policy, 
>>>>>> WebAppInstallByUserEnabled, can disable user web app installs broadly, 
>>>>>> including installs initiated via navigator.install() and <install>. Or 
>>>>>> (2) 
>>>>>> Permissions Policy, web-app-installation, can allow or disallow use of 
>>>>>> this 
>>>>>> feature on origins the enterprise controls (for example, internal 
>>>>>> sites/iframes).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Blink component*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blink>AppManifest 
>>>>>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%3EAppManifest%22>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Web Feature ID*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> install <https://webstatus.dev/features/install>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Motivation*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The web currently lacks the ability for a site to offer installation 
>>>>>> of a web app identified by a cross-origin manifest. Limited support 
>>>>>> exists 
>>>>>> for eligible same-origin web apps via ambient installation affordances 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> the beforeinstallprompt event. However, the existent browser-provided 
>>>>>> entry 
>>>>>> points are difficult for developers to use and users to discover.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This capability lets developers distribute web apps across the web 
>>>>>> without proprietary protocols or platform-specific stores. It brings web 
>>>>>> app distribution closer to the reach developers expect from other 
>>>>>> application models while preserving browser-controlled safeguards and 
>>>>>> explicit user choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Initial public proposal*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://aka.ms/installelement
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Search tags*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> webinstall <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:webinstall>, 
>>>>>> webappinstallation 
>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:webappinstallation>, 
>>>>>> webinstallapi <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:webinstallapi>, 
>>>>>> installelement 
>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:installelement>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *TAG review*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1245
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *TAG review status*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Issues open
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Review was requested two months ago with updates addressing concerns 
>>>>>> raised in the earlier design review: 
>>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1051. The TAG has 
>>>>>> not yet provided substantive feedback on the updated API shape or 
>>>>>> design. A 
>>>>>> recent TAG meeting agreed to develop a finding about the broader 
>>>>>> capability 
>>>>>> of web app installation and prompting. That work remains open, and we 
>>>>>> will 
>>>>>> continue participating in it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Origin Trial Name*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTML Install Element
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Chromium Trial Name*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> InstallElement
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Link to origin trial feedback summary*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B21htNQFmhEhhIpnIU7z_jOeH9wEF1Hz9XSKlMWW3a0/edit?pli=1&tab=t.0
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Origin Trial documentation link*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Demos/pwa-install-element/README.md at main · MicrosoftEdge/Demos 
>>>>>> <https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/Demos/blob/main/pwa-install-element/README.md>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *WebFeature UseCounter name*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WebDXFeature::install
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Risks*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Interoperability and Compatibility*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are additive entry points to web app installation, a capability 
>>>>>> browsers already provide through browser-controlled UI. The primary 
>>>>>> interoperability risk is uneven cross-browser availability rather than 
>>>>>> conflicting behavior for existing content: other engines have not 
>>>>>> committed 
>>>>>> to these entry points, and WebKit opposes site-initiated web app 
>>>>>> installation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WebKit opposes these entry points because it considers installation a 
>>>>>> user decision whose flow should begin in browser UI. We acknowledge this 
>>>>>> substantive difference in approach. However, origin-trial partners, 
>>>>>> public 
>>>>>> developer reports, and standards discussions consistently identified 
>>>>>> existing web app installation as difficult for users to discover and 
>>>>>> cumbersome for developers to offer. Developers expressed strong support 
>>>>>> for 
>>>>>> a direct and predictable installation path while retaining 
>>>>>> browser-controlled confirmation UI and existing installability 
>>>>>> requirements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our designs preserve browser control over installation through 
>>>>>> required user activation, explicit consent in browser-controlled UI, and 
>>>>>> the user agent’s ability to suppress the flow. The <install> element 
>>>>>> further provides user-agent-controlled rendering. Detailed abuse, 
>>>>>> privacy, 
>>>>>> and security protections are described in our explainer and our TAG 
>>>>>> review 
>>>>>> request. Given those safeguards and the demonstrated developer and user 
>>>>>> need, we believe shipping in Chromium is appropriate while standards 
>>>>>> discussions continue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Gecko*: No signal (
>>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1179)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *WebKit*: Oppose (
>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/463)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Web developers*: Positive (
>>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/ethical-web-principles/issues/120#issuecomment-2285348765)
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/ethical-web-principles/issues/120#issuecomment-2285431557
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Other signals*: pwastore.io - 
>>>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/PWA/comments/1o1excp/comment/niit2jh/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Ergonomics*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This could be used in conjunction with the 
>>>>>> navigator.getInstalledRelatedApps API, which tells a developer if any 
>>>>>> related web apps are installed for their site, before rendering the 
>>>>>> install 
>>>>>> element. There is overlap between this install element and the 
>>>>>> BeforeInstallPrompt event. This element is more ergonomic, and we think 
>>>>>> developers will prefer its declarative format. See this thread - 
>>>>>> https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/MSEdgeExplainers/issues/1055
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Activation*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No activation risks. It should be relatively easy for developers to 
>>>>>> take advantage of this feature immediately, as-is. The element was 
>>>>>> designed 
>>>>>> with ergonomics in mind, and we have multiple places with instructions 
>>>>>> for 
>>>>>> developers (two test sites, and the explainer itself)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Security*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The element proposal came out of security concerns with imperative 
>>>>>> APIs, specifically that an API to trigger the PWA installation flow 
>>>>>> cannot 
>>>>>> provide a strong enough signal of user intent to install an app, thereby 
>>>>>> increasing the risk of abuse and annoyance to users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <install> inherits from a base capability element, which has many 
>>>>>> security protections, such as (1) restrictions on element styling/sizing 
>>>>>> (eg. it cannot be fully transparent, and it has a minimum and maximum 
>>>>>> size), (2) preventing activation if out of view, or recently attached to 
>>>>>> the tree, and (3) preventing clipping/occlusion/distortion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See explainer's security section - 
>>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/install-element/blob/main/explainer-manifest-url.md#accessibility-localization-privacy-and-security-considerations
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *WebView application risks*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such 
>>>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based 
>>>>>> applications?*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> N/A
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Debuggability*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Existing DevTools support for HTML elements applies. The base 
>>>>>> capability element also reports customized DevTools Issues when the 
>>>>>> browser 
>>>>>> cannot safely allow activation. In addition, Web Install failures for 
>>>>>> eligible same-origin manifests are reported in the Issues panel using 
>>>>>> bounded failure categories, such as manifest fetch or parse failure, 
>>>>>> invalid start_url, and missing required fields. Cross-origin and 
>>>>>> internal 
>>>>>> failure details are not reported.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See Debuggability doc - 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rGvLhD4SR8Y9M1wVmqgyesPNkbZGU7HOqlttjEFJ5Vo/edit?tab=t.i3gxb63o1ngb
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, 
>>>>>> Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No
>>>>>> Windows, Mac, Linux, and ChromeOS will be shipped first. Android will 
>>>>>> be supported later, due to significant technical deviation in the web 
>>>>>> app 
>>>>>> ecosystem - https://issues.chromium.org/issues/424497410. As of now, 
>>>>>> no plan to support Android WebView.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Is this feature fully tested by **web-platform-tests* 
>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>> *?*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No
>>>>>> The element's base styling/activation restrictions are tested - 
>>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/html/semantics/permission-element/install. 
>>>>>> However, web app installs are currently not supported by automated 
>>>>>> tests, 
>>>>>> as they require user interaction to confirm the installation. Manual web 
>>>>>> app testing instructions can be published.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *DevTrial instructions*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/Demos/blob/main/pwa-install-element/README.md
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Flag name on about://flags*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> web-app-install-element
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Finch feature name*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> InstallElement
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Rollout plan*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will ship enabled for all users
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Requires code in //chrome?*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> False
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Tracking bug*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://issues.chromium.org/issues/454827186
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Launch bug*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4495880
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Measurement*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have a JavaScript use counter that tracks how often the element is 
>>>>>> found in pages (regardless of whether it can be activated). We also have 
>>>>>> chromium UMAs and UKMs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Availability expectation*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Feature is available only in Chromium browsers for the foreseeable 
>>>>>> future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Adoption expectation*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Feature is used by specific partner(s) to provide functionality 
>>>>>> within 12 months of launch in Chrome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Adoption plan*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are in communication with partners. We plan to post an update on 
>>>>>> developer.chrome.com and blogs.windows.com, and add AI guidance for 
>>>>>> Web Install to github.com/GoogleChrome/modern-web-guidance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Non-OSS dependencies*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Does the feature depend on any code or APIs outside the Chromium 
>>>>>> open source repository and its open-source dependencies to function?*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Estimated milestones*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shipping on desktop
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 156
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Origin trial desktop first
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 148
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Origin trial desktop last
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 153
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Anticipated spec changes*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat 
>>>>>> or interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github 
>>>>>> issues in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution 
>>>>>> may 
>>>>>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> N/A
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5152834368700416?gate=6500019899334656
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Links to previous Intent discussions*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Intent to Experiment: 
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/N1AjeFmVF4U/m/YrAdZgaIAAAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status 
>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
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