Thank you for the clarification. I've never thought Wikipedia could be that wrong and misleading.
Mike On 16-05-02 11:55:03, Adrian Georgescu wrote: > "SIP SIMPLE messaging” > > That is wrong as that means MSRP protocol only and they did not implement > it. > SMS is an old form of sending messages using a SIP protocol method called > MESSAGE. This has nothing to do with SIP SIMPLE standards which emerged > several years after. > The wikipedia page is poorly written in general and confusing starting > with the title: > “SIMPLE (instant messaging protocol)“ > SIMPLE is a set of extensions for SIP protocol for presence, multi-party > chat, and file transfers. It is not an “instant message protocol’. > Adrian > > On 02 May 2016, at 11:47, Mike Nagie <[1][email protected]> wrote: > Got it, thank you! > > My information is based on these: > [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSipSimple > The key features of this software are: [...] SIP SIMPLE messaging [...] > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIMPLE_(instant_messaging_protocol) > SIMPLE, the session initiation protocol for instant messaging and > presence leveraging extensions, is an instant messaging (IM) and > presence protocol suite... > > Purpose; sending short messages, analogous to SMS or two-way paging; > > See also; Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) > > I hope I haven't taken out of context. > > On 16-05-02 10:49:57, Adrian Georgescu wrote: > > On 02 May 2016, at 10:31, Mike Nagie <[1][email protected]> > wrote: > I did a tiny research. Theoretically CSipSimple uses SIP SIMPLE > protocol > for instant messaging. > > No, it does not. SIMPLE is a set of specifications for chat and > presence. > [2]https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/simple/documents/ > For SIMPLE chat, MSRP protocol has been defined. > [3]https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4975 > > I saw that Blink has SIMPLE protocol (Presence > Agent mode). > > Presence is not chat, is something else than chat. Nevertheless > Blink > implements both chat and presence from SIMPLE specifications and > CSipSimple implements neither of them. > > Does it mean they can communicate with each other? > > No, they cannot as CSipSimple has not implemented anything from SIP > SIMPLE > specifications. > I am not sure they claimed otherwise either, where have you see that > CSipSimple implements SIMPLE specs? > > On 16-04-27 10:16:58, Adrian Georgescu wrote: > > Blink uses MSRP protocol standardised for session based chat. > Eking > does not implement his protocol. > > [4]https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4975 > > Adrian > > On 27 Apr 2016, at 09:08, Mike Nagie <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I was wondering how chat actually works? > > I use Blink, of course, and the others either Ekiga client or > CSipSimple. > > When I sent something with Ekiga client in the past, the > others > received > the message. I could write messages and receive messages. > > So now, I'm trying to send something from Blink to Ekiga. > At the search bar I type "[email protected]" and I click on > the > 'start a chat session' button. > Blink chat window pops up and I see 'Status Disconnected'. > I type 'hello', and Ekiga starts to ring. > Even if I accept the call I see 'Status Ringing' in Blink, and > I > don't > receive the message 'hello'. > > Other way around, if I write something from Ekiga, nothing > happens > here. > > Between Blink and CSipSimple (Android) > I opened the chat window, typed something, and Blink said: > 'Status: > Not > Acceptable Here' > > Does chat only work between 2 (or more) Blinks? > > [I have not tested with v2.0.0 but theoretically CSipSimple > supports > video calls, and it didn't work with earlier versions of > Blink, but > maybe things are changed since then and this is not really > about > 'chat', but the question would be the same, does video chat > only > work > between Blinks?] > > Mike > -- > You may be a victim of software counterfeiting > _______________________________________________ > Blink mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ag-projects.com/mailman/listinfo/blink > > _______________________________________________ > Blink mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ag-projects.com/mailman/listinfo/blink > > -- > You may be a victim of software counterfeiting > _______________________________________________ > Blink mailing list > [5][email protected] > http://lists.ag-projects.com/mailman/listinfo/blink > > References > > Visible links > 1. mailto:[email protected] > 2. https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/simple/documents/ > 3. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4975 > 4. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4975 > 5. mailto:[email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Blink mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ag-projects.com/mailman/listinfo/blink > > -- > You may be a victim of software counterfeiting > _______________________________________________ > Blink mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ag-projects.com/mailman/listinfo/blink > > References > > Visible links > 1. mailto:[email protected] > 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSipSimple > _______________________________________________ > Blink mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ag-projects.com/mailman/listinfo/blink -- You may be a victim of software counterfeiting _______________________________________________ Blink mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ag-projects.com/mailman/listinfo/blink
