ah ok. teaches me not to read the entire thread. :) so, now all I have to do is 
look for it.

-eric

On Jun 8, 2016, at 3:37 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

> Rufus is a Windows utility and not a Linux tool. Since Eric is looking to 
> create a bootable ISO from Windows or Mac, Rufus should do the trick. Note 
> that Unetbootn isn't the only tool that will do the trick. Rufus and other 
> options exist, which you can find with Google. BTW, the link for Rufus is 
> https://rufus.akeo.ie/
> 
> On 08/06/16 04:11, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>> There is an accessible tool for linux called rufus.
>> 
>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> 
>>> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 04:50:28
>>> From: Eric Oyen <[email protected]>
>>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <[email protected]>
>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: need to skip vinux and install ubuntu
>>> 
>>> hmmm. I wish I could get that far. I have a windows machine (and this
>>> mac), but I can't get either to make a bootable USB stick because the
>>> 1 tool needed is bloody inaccessible. the tool is Unetbootn and its
>>> nothing but graphics in windows (tested with 3 screen readers there)
>>> and all but invisible to voiceover on my mac.
>>> 
>>> now, I have contacted the developer on that project to see if he can
>>> offer a solution. guess I won't know until later this week. In any
>>> case, I am without any means to put linux on a USB stick (and I don't
>>> have media for a DVD either).
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>> On Jun 8, 2016, at 1:35 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes, run the vinux install the way you normally do to start.  There's
>>>> going to be a question install this 3rd party software yes/no, answer
>>>> that with no and proceed from there.  Then do your updates to the
>>>> version of ubuntu you need.
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2016, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:56:49
>>>>> From: Kristoffer Gustafsson <[email protected]>
>>>>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: need to skip vinux and install ubuntu
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>> In order to get my wireless card I need to be running ubuntu 15.10
>>>>> or later.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How was it with the normal ubuntu?
>>>>> can I install that by myself too like vinux?
>>>>> I could skip ubuntu too, and just install debian testing.
>>>>> what do you think is best? debian testing or installing a ubuntu?
>>>>> /Kristoffer
>>>>> 
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