Martin,

We hope the document will be adopted as a BLISS working group item, 
first of all.  Then, we need to work on the new mechanisms to make sure 
we don't have any race conditions - some running code would be excellent 
for this.

I don't think we will need too many IETF cycles to move this document to 
be ready for last call.

Thanks,
Alan

DOLLY, MARTIN C, ATTLABS wrote:
> Alan,
>
> It appears that everything is in the draft. What do you propose to drive
> this to an interoperable solution?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Martin 
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:47 PM
> To: Derek MacDonald
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [BLISS] bliss-MLA-req-01: Simpler <joined-dialog> approach
>
> Derek,
>
> It is already in the draft that way - I thought of this when I did the 
> schema.
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
> Derek MacDonald wrote:
>   
>> Section 6.1.3 describes a <joined-dialog> element which uses the id
>> attribute of the dialog element to identity which dialogs are joined.
>> Unfortunately, the id attribute is only unique for a UA instance. This
>> requires that the state compositor MUST be prepared to offer different
>> notification documents(for the same dialog) for the UAs that have
>> conflicting id attributes.
>>
>> An alternate approach would be to not use the id portion of the dialog
>> element to identity a joined dialog. It would still have call-id,
>> local-tag, remote-tag and direction. This eliminates the need for a
>> state compositor to provide different views; in fact, no composition
>> will be required within a dialog-info element.
>>
>> I am not sure why we didn't do that in the first place.
>> Interestingly, I couldn't find any text in rfc4235 around id attribute
>> collisions.  It seems they lose meaning  when different UAs sharing an
>> aor are composed in a central state agent.
>>
>> -Derek
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