Hi John,

this could be of course a solution, too.

As you said, the PSTN interworking would need some new consideration. Perhaps a 
mechanism similar to that Dale proposed for the 'id' parameter would be 
possible. This would be to have the possibility for a fallback to form the user 
portion from caller id and callee id, encrypted in the way Dale proposed.

BR, Martin






> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Elwell, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. März 2008 11:01
> An: Hülsemann, Martin; [email protected]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Alexeitsev, Denis
> Betreff: RE: [BLISS] Call-completion design question: 
> End-to-end parameters
> 
> Martin,
> 
> I don't see forking as a problem. A monitor generates a URI 
> that uniquely identifies itself and the call and places it in 
> the Call-Info header field of the response to the original 
> INVITE request. For example, it can ask a registrar for a 
> temporary GRUU if it doesn't have its own host name. If this 
> URI is used in the SUBSCRIBE request or in the final INVITE 
> request, it will cause it to be routed to the same monitor 
> and allow that monitor to identify the call.
> 
> Of course, a different solution will be needed for PSTN 
> interworking - I have not thought that one through.
> 
> John
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Huelsemann, Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: 06 March 2008 09:08
> > To: Elwell, John; [email protected]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Alexeitsev, D
> > Subject: AW: [BLISS] Call-completion design question: 
> > End-to-end parameters
> > 
> > Surely this would be conveyed unchanged from the callee CC 
> > monitor to the caller CC agent.
> > 
> > But how to use this for the subscription/recall? As Dale 
> > indicated the request URI is very like to be changed in a 
> > forking scenario.
> > 
> > BR, Martin
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Elwell, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. März 2008 09:02
> > > An: Hülsemann, Martin; [email protected]
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Alexeitsev, Denis
> > > Betreff: RE: [BLISS] Call-completion design question: 
> > > End-to-end parameters
> > > 
> > > Martin,
> > > 
> > > If we are considering using Call-Info in an INVITE response 
> > > to convey a
> > > contact URI to be used as the Request-URI in a SUBSCRIBE 
> > request, that
> > > URI could not only identify the monitor but also the 
> > particular call.
> > > Problem solved?
> > > 
> > > John
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Huelsemann, Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > Sent: 05 March 2008 14:40
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elwell, John; 
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Alexeitsev, D
> > > > Subject: AW: [BLISS] Call-completion design question: 
> > > > End-to-end parameters
> > > > 
> > > > Dear colleagues,
> > > > 
> > > > I'm just trying to summarize your discussion for myself:
> > > > 
> > > > - the CC subscription and the CC call have to be correlated 
> > > > to the original call somehow, psoposed is to use a 'id' 
> > > > parameter for this purpose
> > > > 
> > > > - the callid from the original call could be used as value 
> > > > for the 'id' parameter (for the PSTN interworking also a 
> > > > fallback procedure to generate the 'id' parameter from caller 
> > > > and callee id is proposed, as gateways are not able to 
> > > store callids)
> > > > 
> > > > - the problem with the usage of the callid is, that proxies 
> > > > can change the callid, and because of this a correlation of 
> > > > original callid and the callid delivered in the 'id' 
> > > > parameter might not be possible
> > > > 
> > > > - it is unclear to which header the 'id' parameter should be 
> > > > added: From-header might be changed by forking proxies; Call 
> > > > Info header demands a URI which is not always available
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So if this summary is correct, there seem to be 2 questions:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Is there a end-to-end unchanged identification of the 
> > > > original call which can be used to fill the 'id' parameter?
> > > > 
> > > > To which end-to-end unchanged header of the CC subscription 
> > > > or the CC call can the 'id' parameter be added?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > BR, Martin
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
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