Hi Mikhail,

On Apr 28, 2015, at 13:04 , Mikael Abrahamsson <swm...@swm.pp.se> wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Apr 2015, David Lang wrote:
> 
>> Voice is actually remarkably tolerant of pure latency. While 60ms of jitter 
>> makes a connection almost unusalbe, a few hundred ms of consistant latency 
>> isn't a problem. IIRC (from my college days when ATM was the new, hot 
>> technology) you have to get up to around a second of latency before 
>> pure-consistant latency starts to break things.
> 
> I would say most people start to get trouble when talking to each other when 
> the RTT exceeds around 500-600ms.
> 
> I mostly agree with 
> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/voice/voice-quality/5125-delay-details.html
>  but RTT of over 500ms is not fun. You basically can't have a heated 
> argument/discussion when the RTT is higher than this :P

        From "Table 4.1 Delay Specifications” of that link we basically have a 
recapitulation of the ITU-T G.114 source, one-way mouth to ear latency 
thresholds for acceptable voip performance. The rest of the link discusses 
additional sources of latency and should allow to come up with a reasonable 
estimate how much of the latency budget can be spend on the transit. So in my 
mind an decent thresholds would be (150ms mouth-to-ear-delay - 
sender-processing - receiver-processing) * 2. Then again I think the discussion 
turned to relating buffer-bloat inured latency as jitter source, so the 
thresholds should be framed in a jitter-budget, not pure latency ;).

Best Regards
        Sebastian


> 
> -- 
> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swm...@swm.pp.se

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