Ahah! I wasn't clear. I do want One Grade to Rule Them All... But I was only talking about different Y-axis values on the latency charts, so that a bad latency in one direction doesn't hide the details of the transfer in the other.
Rich On May 21, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Jim Gettys <j...@freedesktop.org> wrote: > Providing separate grades for upload and download does not make sense to me, > as interference with acks in the other direction badly hurts that traffic. > Uploads and downloads are *not* independent variables. > > KISS: one grade.... > - Jim > > > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Rich Brown <richb.hano...@gmail.com> wrote: > That is interesting. I'm trying to think how the latency charts could be > misconstrued, since a Y-axis on the right isn't the norm - I don't think it's > hard to understand, but just different. > > The display as-is clearly shows that the download is badly bloated, but the > upload is fine. That's the important message for most people at home. But as > a researcher, you want to understand the details of the upload. So having > different scales would help you see better into the problem. > > * If the download and upload values are substantially similar, the left and > right Y-axis scales should be the same, so there wouldn't be confusion > > * If the values are substantially different (as in this screen shot), the > pink and yellow backgrounds (on the left) and the lack of them on the right > would provide a solid cue that there is something different going on between > the two charts. > > * On the other hand, the report already shows different Y-axis values for the > down/upload speeds, so the latency charts could mimic the speeds... > > Other thoughts? > > Rich > > On May 20, 2015, at 12:46 PM, Dave Taht <dave.t...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I wanted to be able to have separated charts for up and down on > > different scales, so I took apart what exists today in gimp and got > > this: > > > > http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/dslreportsmockup.png > > > > I guess it is partially because I am getting a C on the download at > > this speed, and no A+ on the upload, and I would at least like to get > > a gold star from teacher for effort. :/ > > > > I dunno how to fix the download short of getting rid of several > > seconds of inherent buffering in their CMTS. There must be a simple > > way to do that?? > > > > -- > > Dave Täht > > Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware** > > > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67 > > _______________________________________________ > > Bloat mailing list > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >
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