On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:49 AM Jonathan Morton <chromati...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 5 Jun, 2018, at 10:44 am, Mario Hock <mario.h...@kit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Just to make sure that I got your answer correctly. The benefit for 
> > endsystems comes from the "fq" (flow queuing) part, not from the "codel" 
> > part of fq_codel?
>
> That's a fair characterisation, yes.
>
> In fact, even for middleboxes, the "flow isolation" semantics of FQ have the 
> most impact on reducing inter-flow induced latency.  The "codel" part (AQM) 
> helps with intra-flow latency, which is usually much less important once flow 
> isolation is in place, but is still worth having.

So, jonathan, this portion of the debate leaked over into
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/9725

And I lost a great deal of hair over it. the codel portion is way
worth it on "end-systems".

>
>  - Jonathan Morton
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