On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 3:35 PM Sebastian Moeller <moell...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi Dave, > > > > On Dec 3, 2021, at 15:18, Dave Taht <dave.t...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 4:00 AM Luca Muscariello <muscarie...@ieee.org> > wrote: > >> > >> Test using a tp-link AP EAP 245 > >> > >> > https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=bbcc5ef5-e677-4f27-aa04-1849db81d0f5 > > > > Nice. > > > > A kvetch is that I really wish they also tested up and down at the same > time. > > > > Another kvetch is I think the test needs to run longer at these speeds. > > > > Another another kvetch is they factor in baseline latency to determine > > if the link is suitable for gaming or not. > > Which is the sane thing to do... IMHO. For any "twitch"-type > reation-time gated gaming all players need to be in an acceptable range of > "RTTs" to and from the server so that all perceive the world similarly and > nobody has an unfair advantage/disadvantage, so absolute RTT does seem to > matter. I would agree that jitter is nastier in that is will cause > "randomish" variations of the RTT, but then the known solution against > jitter is additional buffering (large enough to simply even out the unequal > jittered packet arrival times) which in turn just increases the "RTT", no? > (I guess no game really does this enough, so jitter stays the constant > problem for internet game-play). > > Mobile multiplayer competitive games, like PvP, 5v5 such as CoDM, Critical Ops, LoL Wild Rift may have very different ways to face/conceal network conditions based on the experience the studio wants to offer to the gamer. > > > We had them participating on this list at some point.... > > > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 7:48 PM Dave Taht <dave.t...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> tp-link, is, so far as I know, the last major home router vendor NOT > >>> shipping a SQM system. Perhaps this could be modded up with someones > >>> with accounts? > >>> > >>> https://community.tp-link.com/us/home/forum/topic/511156 > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> I tried to build a better future, a few times: > >>> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org > >>> > >>> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Bloat mailing list > >>> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > > > > > > -- > > I tried to build a better future, a few times: > > https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org > > > > Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > > _______________________________________________ > > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > > cerowrt-de...@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > >
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