> On Jun 16, 2022, at 9:22 AM, Sebastian Moeller <moell...@gmx.de> wrote: > > HI MIchael, > > >> On Jun 16, 2022, at 07:48, Michael Welzl via Bloat >> <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>> wrote: >> >> … but I’m excited about slide 15 ! >> >> "Heat, CO2, and radioactive waste are becoming measurable by-products of TCP >> inefficiency >> Fix TCP => Save the World!” >> >> People don’t yet focus enough on this - > > The slide deck however omits presenting the evidence for that > hypothesis... > > > >> and it’s not only relevant in a data center context. See also: >> >> Michael Welzl: "Not a Trade-Off: On the Wi-Fi Energy Efficiency of Effective >> Internet Congestion Control", IEEE/IFIP WONS 2022, virtual, 30 March - 1 >> April 2022. >> Preprint: >> https://folk.universitetetioslo.no/michawe/research/publications/wons2022_authors_version.pdf >> >> <https://folk.universitetetioslo.no/michawe/research/publications/wons2022_authors_version.pdf> >> >> A couple of IETFs ago, I did sign up to present something along these lines >> at an ICCRG meeting, but I asked late and got squeezed into an “if time >> permits” slot; some day in the future I’ll ask for a “proper slot” to >> elaborate on this. > > Curious, should such an observation not look at the aggregate energy > consumption of senders and receivers? And maybe also report the total energy > consumption of those devices for reference to allow an estimate of how much > "radioactive waste" can be easily avoided? > Mind you, I am not arguing that saving energy (even small amounts) is > not desirable, I just want to see how that stacks up with the total energy > consumed by those systems.
I completely agree - one just needs to start somewhere. Baby steps :) Cheers, Michael
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