Hi Erik,

> On Oct 10, 2022, at 13:46, Taraldsen Erik <erik.tarald...@telenor.no> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/10/2022, 11:41, "Bloat on behalf of Sebastian Moeller via Bloat" 
> <bloat-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net on behalf of 
> bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
>       [SM] Cool, if I might ask what fraction of the sync are you setting the 
> traffic shaper for and are you doing fine grained overhead accounting (or 
> simply fold that into a grand "de-rating"-factor)?
> 
> We ended up just using a fraction.  

        [SM] Fair enough, for ATM/AAL5 that is challenging but for VDSL2/PTM 
that seems workable...

> Can't remember the exact fraction, but we were not conservative.  It was hard 
> to push through this change so leaving any bw on the table was sacrilegious 
> to a lot of people.

        [SM] Tricky... e.g. vectoring enabled CPE can be instructed by the 
DSLAM to send error samples in-band with the data, but that traffic is never 
seen by our shapers, so to account for that we need to set a fraction that 
allows for that (more or less) periodic traffic. I guess one can reach a point 
of "goog enough" even when ignoring such eventualities, especially if having to 
convince through-put hot-rodders. Always interesting to hear experience from 
the real world, thanks!

Regards
        Sebastian

>  
> 
> 
> -Erik 
> 

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