Hi David,
> On Jan 9, 2024, at 00:15, David Schinazi <dschinazi.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > > My understanding is that Apple chose to report RTT as an inverse because > people are used to "higher number means better". The target audience for > network speed tests is the average slightly-tech-savvy consumer, and those > aren't all familiar with what latency means. Also, car enthusiasts like RPMs > :-) Yes, I understand the rationale, I am just not buying it 100%. As I said people are well accustomed to values were "less is more" (prices, taxes, marathon times, ...) and I am not sure whether catering to the lowest common denominator is all that superior to teaching folks the relevant numbers... After all the trade-off is that now if people want to decompose or aggregate RPM values they need to deal with fractions... However for the responsiveness draft I fully accept that ship has sailed and "bigger is better" it is ;) Regards Sebastian > David > > On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 1:53 PM Sebastian Moeller via Bloat > <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > Hi Julien, > > On 8 January 2024 22:04:23 CET, Juliusz Chroboczek <j...@irif.fr> wrote: > >> (h++ps://github.com/network-quality/draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness). > > > >There's quite a few good ideas in this draft, but the one that I find > >intriguing is reporting RTT values in RPM (units of 1/60 Hz) rather than > >milliseconds. > > That idea, reporting the reciprocal has been around for some time, I think I > first heard it from Jonathan Morton. But this is the first implementation.... > > Now personally I tend to think about 'latency' as sort of a budget, and then > accounting where this budget is spent is easier with durations than periods. > But I understand the attraction of 'bigger is better' numbers as well. Though > most people also know smaller is better number, like product prices or taxes > owed, but I digress. > > > > > >I wonder how well this works. I'll experiment with undergrads. > > The goresponsiveness code is quite readable and might give a convenient > starting point for some quick and dirty exploration... > > > > >-- Juliusz > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat _______________________________________________ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat