Thank you so much for the comments Thierry , not sure what I would do without you. It is great to know that there is life out there!
On 2/1/13 7:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Last ZTFY release (through ZTFY.webapp package) is based on ZTK-1.1.5, > which is the last published "known good set". Thank you for that critical information. So then ZTFY is the best starting point! http://wiki.ztfy.org/InstallationInstructions It has the ZMI, which is good enough for me to start with. Even if I am not using ZTFY itself. As for complexity, I guess Thierry and I disagree on this point. But let me state my case clearly for the record. Just take a look at what it takes to install one additional package. My problem description previously given. And remember it was not working, so in order to debug the problem, I need to understand all the following tools, and what they do. easy install I like that one. python bootstrap.py okay, this one is simple. emacs buildout.cfg To add in the new package. Meaning I have to know the package libraries that I want and their names. And there are a million packages out there. I do not get a short list of approved packages to choose from. ./bin/buildout etc/configure.zcml meaning zcml That is the hardest one. In fact knowing to edit configure.zcml requires a huge body of knowlege about ztk and how stuff is done. And that is just to install this stuff, not even develop on it. And if it does not work, one has to understand many things to figure out the problem. Ideally I would like to type one or two unix commands, then use a web browser to select any additional packages I want to install. And have a short list of recommended packages that work! As for ZTFY not being a through the web development environment. That is true. Actually I am not even using ZTFY, just the ZMI that comes with it. I do not have to add much to it, to make a pretty good simple TTW development environment. Just dtml, python scripts, and acquisition, and I will be a very happy man. Now if we could get a pretty zmi replacement working that would be awesome! Now I understand people do not like to leave their code in the ZODB. Actually for single developer, single site projects, it works just fine. I do hear and understand your concerns on this matter. One of my long term goals is to put a source code control system on ZODB, then it would be easy to share the code across systems, but one thing at a time. Regards Chris _______________________________________________ bluebream mailing list [email protected] https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/bluebream
