I have been on the mailing list for a long time but only have a minor interest,
plus the fact that at 80 I am now slowing down considerably. I think your
suggestion is a good one.

Regards, Brian Duke.

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 04:31:18PM -0330, Oliver Stueker wrote:
> Dear Henry, Egon and Blue Obelisk team,
> 
> Today Peter (Murray-Rust) and I had a conversation about the future of the
> source-code repositories of the WWMM and CML (XML-CML.org) projects.  The
> repositories in https://bitbucket.org/cml and https://bitbucket.org/wwmm are
> all using Mercurial (hg) and as Bitbucket has announced the end of their
> support of Mercurial, they are subject to deletion next summer (see below).
> 
> Peter and I have agreed that we want to transfer all of the repositories
> (which include projects like oscar4, JUMBO, the JUMBO-converters, the CML
> schema and dictionaries) over into a new "Organization" on GitHub which
> would then allow to grant merge privileges or even transfer ownership in
> case a new "Doctor Who" wants to take on development.
> 
> Peter suggested that the "Blue Obelisk" might be a good place for the
> repositories and I see that https://github.com/BlueObelisk already exists
> and contain the code for the Blue Obelisk website and  Blue Obelisk Data
> Repository.
> 
> We would like to get your feedback on a number of points:
> 
>    - Do you also think that https://github.com/BlueObelisk would be a good
>    home for the WWMM and CML repositories?  The names wwmm and cml are already
>    taken on GitHub.com.
> 
>    - With https://github.com/BlueObelisk already containing data, should we
>    create "Teams" within the "BlueObelisk-org" to  keep things tidy and manage
>    access?
> 
>    - Should we at some point migrate the xml-cml.org website to be hosted
>    directly out of the Git-repository?
>    This would allow publishing updates simply by merging Pull Requests. Who
>    runs the current website (and manages the xml-cml.org domain)? Henry?
> 
> I'd be happy to work on migrating the repositories from Bitbucket (hg) to
> GitHub (git) over the holidays and even try using GitHub Actions or
> Travis-CI for building for some select repositories.
> 
> What are your thoughts?
> 
> Cheers,
> Peter and Oliver
> 
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 2:56 PM Oliver Stueker wrote:
> 
> > Dear Peter, Mark and Quixote team,
> >
> > As you are probably aware, Atlassian has announced in August that they
> > will be sunsetting their support of Mercurial in Bitbucket, a process that
> > will end with the removal of all Mercurial repositories on June 1st, 2020.
> > https://bitbucket.org/blog/sunsetting-mercurial-support-in-bitbucket
> >
> > From 2014 to 2016, our team at Memorial University has expanded the
> > JUMBO-converters as well as a few CML-CompChem dictionaries, however so far
> > we fell short at contributing our changes back to the original projects.
> >
> > Now with the risk of all the work being lost when Bitbucket pulls the plug
> > on Mercurial, it's time to take action.
> >
> > The first course of action from my side will be to create Pull-Requests
> > containing our work done in the JUMBO-converters and xml-cml.org
> > repositories, because it will be much harder to merge them after the
> > Mercurial-repositories have been moved elsewhere or converted to Git.
> >
> > Next is the question of what will happen to all the Mercurial repositories
> > at https://bitbucket.org/wwmm/ and https://bitbucket.org/cml/ ?
> >
> >    - Do all repositories need to be migrated?
> >    I think I've counted 50 repositories but I have no idea how many of
> >    them contain data that has later-on been combined into other 
> > repositories.
> >    - Should they be converted to Git and re-uploaded to BitBucket?
> >    As I understand, data about issues and pull-requests will likely get
> >    lost during the process.
> >    Wikis are repositories as well and can/need to be converted from
> >    Mercurial to Git  as well.
> >    It might be possible to export and re-import the issues though.
> >    - Maybe move to another hosting site?  GitHub? GitLab?
> >    Unfortunately https://github.com/wwmm and https://github.com/cml are
> >    already taken.
> >
> >
> > I'm happy to pitch in and work on migrating *some* of the repositories.
> >
> > As I had been working with Git quite a lot before my work on
> > JUMBO-converters, I have been using the git-remote-gh plugin
> > <https://github.com/felipec/git-remote-hg> the whole time.  This allows
> > you to use the Git command line tools to work on hg repositories
> > transparently.
> >
> >
> > What are your thoughts?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Oliver
> >


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