On 01/03/2014 05:12 PM, Chris Gebhardt - VIRTBIZ Internet wrote: > On 1/3/2014 4:48 PM, Gerald Waugh wrote: > >> The issue I had was where the owner of the server pays someone to >> install packages on a server. >> Later he decides to pay someone else to install packages on the server. >> >> In one case I have in mind the last person installing packages was >> killed in an auto accident and is no longer available. >> Seems overly complicated to me. > > That's a good point. The licensing probably works well for a customer > with one or several servers of their own. However, we have encountered > some rather frustrating cases. > > For instance, we have provided management services for customers where, > before everything was installed via NewLinq, we could purchase a package > on the customer's behalf, install it, then charge that back to the > customer on an upcoming invoice and everyone's happy. The developer > gets paid, we get paid, the customer gets their software installed. > > After the switch to NewLinq, we wound up in a situation where we would > install our credentials on a customer server, install a package, then > the customer decides they're ready to take matters into their own hands, > or they find another sysadmin, or... whatever, now things are complicated. > > So we find ourselves in a bit of a pickle. The developers need to have > a way to reasonably ensure they are paid for their work. It's not good > when we have someone who just keeps infinitely using the same license on > servers willy-nilly. At the same time, there needs to be a system > flexible enough so that it stays out of the way and lets the user and > sysadmin do their job. > > As it currently stands, the existing system has been an impediment to > our ability to help customers. Consequently, we've not bought a package > for a customer in a long time. Instead, we encourage the customer to > get the whole purchase and NewLinq business handled on their own. I'm > not aware of what percentage actually follow through, and how many > simply lose interest. > > That's no swipe against Greg or Michael. But I can say that the current > state of the BlueOnyx shop and the way software is installed is, shall > we say, less than ideal. For our purposes, anyhow. I'd certainly be > happy to dialog with the shop owners/vendors to provide what I would > hope is constructive info if that's something that is welcomed. They > know where to hit me up. ;) > > Apart from that, it's just my 2 cents US. > Interesting Chris Most of the servers I manage have owners who are stressed at adding and deleting users. Selecting, purchasing, installing and configuring packages is beyond their capabilities. I now have my NewLinQ username on several servers at different locations, If I purchase packages and someone else o n one of those servers checks NewLinQ they could have my packages.
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