Hi Chris,

It's fair to say that Red Hat's actions have been disruptive to nearly all sectors of RHEL user base, but the impact to the hosting community has been profound.  BlueOnyx is not the only control panel that was caught flat-footed by RH's pronouncements and it may be years before the ripples are fully settled.

Yeah, and we can be certain that causing these ripples was an intentional side effect.

The commercial vendor we use for some hosting applications had been working on their Ubuntu support for a while, but that has certainly
> been fast-tracked to a fully supported (and just short of recommended)
> option. And they've been based on RHEL for as long as we have.

I can imagine. Having another OS (preferably a fully community driven one like Debian) as potential exit strategy is something we should have in the pipe. So I'm back at looking at a native BlueOnyx build for Debian as a long term alternative.

While my company certainly has a hand in many different pots when it comes to Linux flavors, our comfort zone has been with Enterprise Linux from the start.

I think this is something we all can relate to. And while it's good that Enterprise Linux won't go away, the ripples in the water will persist for quite some time and this isn't helpful.

I find it curious that CloudLinux themselves are offering a free
> distribution although they're funding AlmaLinux.

Indeed, that was a bit of a surprise. Their Cloud Linux had RHEL or CentOS 7/8/9 as upstream and tacked on some extras for the cloud related management. Plus they also offered architectural support for platforms that RedHat no longer offered. Like Arm64.

I guess the early CentOS 8 EOL left them with a gap to fill for their own needs. Creating AlmaLinux and spinning it off into a self-governing foundation was an interesting move. I also like the "added value" they provide, such as their ELEVATE OS upgrade script or the extra Arm64 builds.

I can tell you one thing for certain:  Given the mercurial nature of RedHat's decision making, we will not be considering their product. They seem to shift directions on a whim, which is not a trait I'm interested in when making decisions on how best to provide stability and success for my business.   I cannot help but wonder if other managers might be thinking along similar lines, and if RedHat's actions will ultimately put then into an also-ran position.  Now that would really make things interesting with the futures of AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux, CloudLinux etc.

The level of cooperation and collaboration we're currently seeing is great and hopefully it has the desired effect that RedHat realizes that further moving of goal-posts might not be in their own best interests. I heard nobody react to the current situation by saying: "Well, I guess then I buy some RedHat licenses instead!"

That ain't going to happen and all RedHat managed was to piss off a lot of the community on whose work they depend via Fedora, Epel, CentOS Stream. Or developers of those upstream projects which they themselves are leeching from. Like the combined works under the Apache Software Foundation's umbrella and others.

There is a lot of resilience in the open source community against corporate overlords and that can quickly turn into resistance. Which makes sense: It gives us dragons to slay and we don't even have to leave the basement for that. :p

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With best regards

Michael Stauber
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