Hi, :-) On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 23:20, Nino Novak <nn.l...@kflog.org> wrote: > 1) Is there any integration (planned?) with odfauthors or is it just > about a new and different place to produce documentation (specific for > libreoffice maybe)?
IMHO, it is in the best interests of LibreOffice project for the LibreOffice documentation project to have its own workflow, expertise and policies for LibreOffice documentation. However, I proactively asked Jean Weber (odfauthors.org) to be part of the Alfresco site and the LibreOffice documentation team. I invited her to have an admin account on the Alfresco site, and actually gave her one despite her only-lukewarm interest, to encourage her close participation. But she is very taken up with odfauthors, and does not seem want any close involvement in the LibreOffice documentation team. I even suggested to her to take team leadership of the LibreOffice docs team two times in the past. But she's very much occupied with odfauthors. In any case, no matter what similarities there might be between OOo and LibO right at present, the two products are quickly going to diverge. LibreOffice might as well start developing its own documentation team and expertise now. On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 23:20, Nino Novak <nn.l...@kflog.org> wrote: > 2) what about the l10n people? Are they involved already or is it > planned to involve them? Or is it just about to create "international" > (i.e. English) documents (optionally serving as master for translation)? There is every opportunity for interested l10n people to work with Alfresco, and I have been intending to throw open an invitation. But I've held back on that until a) the SC grants me a remit to operate an Alfresco server for the project and b) I've been able to consult and liaise with Sophie Gauthier beforehand. On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 22:35, Jaime R. Garza <gar...@gmail.com> wrote: > who is sponsoring your server? No-one is sponsoring it. I operate it myself. On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 22:35, Jaime R. Garza <gar...@gmail.com> wrote: > What would be your benefit? The pleasure, interest and kudos of working for TDF and the LibreOffice Open Source project? Worthwhile professional experience? On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 22:35, Jaime R. Garza <gar...@gmail.com> wrote: > And how can you warranty the uptime and performance and for how long? The server is hosted in a high-quality, secure data center in the UK, with all the security and backup systems you find in such modern infrastructures. I can't *warranty* the server uptime and performances beyond a best-effort, good-faith commitment and the guarantees offered by the data center. But Open Source projects don't offer better, do they? For how long? Not beyond my death, in any case. Up to then, things should be OK. But, seriously, I would always cooperate in all good faith in a handover, and would always make best arrangements not to damage the LibreOffice project's interests. I *care* about the project, and I *care* about my reputation. ;-) Florian, SC, please read my post below: David Nelson On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 22:02, David Nelson <comme...@traduction.biz> wrote: > Hi Florian, :-) > > All the active members of the docs team have accounts on the Alfresco > site I'm hosting right now. There is a general consensus/willingness > to use it, and people have already started trying it out for actual > work. > > Putting it under a TDF sub-domain will only further strengthen > people's commitment to uptake. > > We're ready to start a pilot work project, using the workflow that has > been developed. We have a system set up with: > > - a custom-designed workflow for the docs team, developed by a > professional Alfresco developer and a member of the docs team, > - full git-like versioning, > - rollback, > - discussion around documents, > - full built-in support for ODF/OOo/LibreOffice file formats, > - simple usage (publication/updating) for users via the use of an > existing plugin for OOo/LibO that lets you collaborate right from > within the LibO applications, > - sophisticated searching capability, that can extend right into > hosted documents. > > Basically, we have all the sophisticated functionality we need for > properly-managed, automation-assisted documentation development and > prepping for publication, with the potential ability to interface with > a variety of outside systems, such as directly with the LibreOffice > code repository... > > It would be a great tool for producing developer documentation in the > future, in addition to the user documentation the docs team is now > working on. > > It could also be used for easy management of HTML content on TDF > servers (documentfoundation.org, for instance), and for a variety of > other purposes. > > Using Alfresco, we will be able to develop all our documentation and > many other kinds of content in-house, and we will acquire expertise > and autonomy within the LibreOffice project and docs team. > > The advantages of hosting it on my server would be as follows: > > 1) It's quite a complicated package to set-up and configure. It is > quite memory-hungry. On my server, it is already fully operational. No > workload or worry for you. Version upgrades will be done whenever I > want, without putting workload and responsibility on you. > > 2) On my server, it is running within an environment that is simple to > manage. No problems of conflicts with the many other software products > that TDF runs. You get none of the complications that would inevitably > exist with integrating Alfresco into a TDF server. > > 3) I have access to 24/7 professional technical support, with in-house > Alfresco expertise. Any problems can be troubleshot within minutes, at > any time of day or night, with no problems of people on vacation, > sick, etc. > > 4) On my server, I have full root access and full control over all the > other software running on the server. I can't have that on a TDF > server. > > 5) On my server, I can peacefully reboot the system at any time and, > generally, do anything I want, without having to worry about other > users, running software, etc. And one does need to anticipate > occasional *total* system outages during the running-in period. > > 6) On my server, I can do memory and disk space upgrades 24/7 within > minutes. That kind of turnaround will not be available on a TDF > server. > > 7) The server is hosted in a secure data center in the UK, and > automated backups are taken at regular intervals, under my control. > > 8) You and Christian already have admin access to the Alfresco back > end. You can also both have permanent SSH user accounts to inspect the > server, suggest security improvements, etc. But you will find pretty > much the same security arrangements as I found on > documentfoundation.org. > > 9) I undertake to provide TDF with the best-possible service, and to > work on building a strong docs team and documentation base for > LibreOffice. I will also make a major effort in the future to expand > the number of active docs contributors within the LibreOffice project. > > If you agree, the sub-domain name I would suggest would be > alfresco.libreoffice.org. > > What do you think? ;-) > > David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
