Hi Dennis,

On 28/02/2020 13:04, Dennis Roczek wrote:
> you just were telling us in the public part of the board meeting that
> the TDF can remove the trade mark of the TDC with a prenotification of
> 30 days.

        That is the plan.

> Is the trade mark policy basically the one published in the wiki? [0] Or
> is it another one (and is this the published somewhere else)?

        We currently have several TM licenses for all sorts of entities across
the ecosystem - anyone in our community using the LibreOffice brand on a
product, service etc. should be assumed to have one. You can't eg. print
a T-shirt or a mug with our branding on it without one.

        Those are all very similar in substance - and are IIRC all unilaterally
revocable with ~zero notice by TDF. If the BoD doesn't like what you do
- then they can decide to just pull the plug by a simple majority.

        I would expect a similar, but bespoke agreement for TDC to give time to
wind up TDC & give staff notice.

        That gives huge influence over anyone who signs one of those and does
business with the LibreOffice brand.

        I know - I used to ship product under one, and it turned every minor
suggestion of a BoD member into a nightmare feature-request I had to
deliver on or risk termination of my business =) so - have been on both
sides here; and it's not at all pleasant being at the whim of 10 people
with very different visions.

> [0] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Policies/Trademark_Policy

        This is the general policy, primarily focused at avoiding some of the
mistakes & problems Mozilla experienced with Firefox, built on the
OpenOffice experience and soon. Hence the bit at the end:

        "If you have questions about using TDF marks, or if you think you
should be able to use TDF marks for any purpose not allowed by this
policy and would like permission for that use, or for more information
concerning our label program, please contact TDF by emailing
le...@documentfoundation.org (non-public)."

        ATB,

                Michael.

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