The Document Foundation
Board of Directors Meeting 2020-08-14
Meeting Minutes
Date: 2020-08-14
Location: Jitsi
Session chair: Lothar Becker
Keeper of the minutes: Stephan Ficht
In the meeting: Lothar Becker (Chair), Franklin Weng (Board), Nicolas
Christener (Deputy), Ilmari Lauhakangas, Italo Vignoli, Stephan Ficht
(AA), Florian Effenberger (ED), Thorsten Behrens (Board), Daniel
Rodriguez (Board), Paolo Vecchi (Deputy), Michael Meeks (Board), Cor
Nouws (Board), Sophie Gautier
Representation: Nicolas for Emiliano (Paolo arrived late)
(See https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/
subject "Representation statements")
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without deputies. In order to be quorate, the call needs to have 1/2 of
the Board of Directors members, which gives 4. A total of 7 Board of
Directors members are attending the call.
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the foundations articles, or other requirements regarding form and
invitation, time limits, and for the topics discussed in this meeting.
The meeting is quorate and invitation happened in time. From now on,
motions can be passed with the agreement of a simple majority of those
remaining present. The majority threshold is currently 4.
The meeting commences at 13:01 Berlin time.
Agenda
Public part
1. Q&A: Answering Questions from the community (All, max. 10 min)
Rationale: Provide an opportunity for the community to ask questions
to the board and about TDF.
any questions? (Lothar)
+ proposal of cooperative by Kevin on board-discuss@ list
+ discussing about TDF owning things (Thorsten)
+ cooperatives as e.g. known in Germany add overhead (that helps
keeping them stick to their purpose), that is likely pointless if TDF
owns the thing in the first place (Thorsten)
+ cooperatives have one vote per member (Lothar)
+ things depend on how to structure the entity, more engagement
of members involved, acting responsibly, more eyes on, engagement how
entity is running, some examples given, (Kevin)
+ sustainability, engagement, more democratic control (Kevin)
+ diversification of control, more participation through ownership
+ more interaction of customers/users/clients, shown statistically
through many studies
+ cooperatives last much longer than private organizations
+ more conservative spending, more responsible acting, as more eyes
on things - no profit maximization mode
+ TDF already a foundation, nonprofit
+ benefit side probably not affected, but engagement side
+ samples: one Uber cooperative, fairbnb, hosting cooperatives
+ solution to TDF owning it? (Lothar)
+ here it gets complicated (Kevin)
+ cooperative could create legal contract between TDF and enterprises
- admin stuff handled by TDF, helps to maintain control
+ if TDF should retain control, however, doesn't make a lot of sense
+ jurisdictions and corporate structures for fully-owned subsidies,
to accomplish various purposes (Michael)
+ you seem to have experience, maybe we should look also into
Canadian options
+ unsure if Canada is a good choice for business, but also look into
Luxemburg or Ireland (Kevin)
+ phase of collecting ideas (Lothar)
2. Inform & Discuss: status of running tenders, handling pending tenders
in the queue (status Florian, Lothar, All 5 min)
Rationale: Status quo, defining further procedure with other tender
tasks
Done tenders: ODF conformance
Awarded tenders: MC dashboard
Published tenders: Xray-built-in debugger, Development mentor
Pending tenders: WebDav, Text layout, ODF 1.3 delta tender,
Automated ODF filter regression testing, Cleanup & further improve ODF
conformance, COSM release pipeline setup & ongoing ODF 1.4 work (planned
for 2021)
Related pending task: Streamline tendering process
See also https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2020
+ explanations about tenders (Florian)
+ ODF 1.3 delta was publicly drafted, ready for publication
+ that one needs board approval
+ deadlines? (Michael)
+ September deadlines for ~all tenders (Florian)
+ XRay -> Sept 1st, debugger & mentor -> Sept 15th
+ lets get more of these out, if there is no conflict/overlap for
oversight (Thorsten)
+ prefers to keep the pipeline filled
+ invoices for many of the new tenders might only land next year
anyway
+ clarification on the various budget items for ODF bits ? (Michael)
AI: + will clarify (Florian)
+ lets get them tendered (Michael)
+ first getting them into a tender-able state (Thorsten)
+ agreed with that (Lothar)
+ Who is reponsible for WebDAV / COSM (Lothar)
+ COSM - doesn't need tendering, just do it ? (Michael)
AI: + draft the text, then open for public comment (Thorsten)
AI: + clarify if we want to tender COSM anyway (Thorsten)
Redmine ticket(s):
KG22.01.1 - Two more tenders signed in 6 months (Florian)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3108
Status: Two signed, two more tendered, one more pending
KG22.01.2 - Two more tenders delivered in 1 year (Florian)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3109
Status: Two signed, two more tendered, one more pending
KG22.02.1 - Hire an effective & skilled development mentor (Florian)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3112
Status: Tender published. Open until September 15. Feedback by
October 30.
3. Discuss & Organize: Planning further steps (in subgroups/AoO?) with:
a) marketing plan
b) tender streamlining
c) app store offering TDF
d) TM licensing (All 10 min)
Rationale: Discuss and identify the next steps
+ bringing idea of subgroups (Lothar)
+ responsibilty for ticket to move it forward
Redmine ticket(s): d)?
Tickets for a)
LibreOffice 7.0/7.1 marketing plan (Paolo)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3206
Status: Paolo, Franklin, Michael, Thorsten, Mike, Italo continue
working on this
+ further steps promised publicly (Lothar)
+ special targets? (Paolo)
+ changes for the website (Thorsten)
+ "old" group to continue (Lothar)
Tickets for b)
KG22.01 - Streamline Tendering Process in 24 months (Nicolas)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3107
Status: Pending
+ Nicolas pokes to come together (Lothar)
+ Florian joins too
Tickets for c)
form sub-group to work out and publish business entity proposals (Paolo)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3294
Status: Pending feedback
+ Lothar, Paolo, Thorsten, Michael, Nicolas
Issue with d) TM licenses, no redmine ticket so far (?),
+ need to get app-store TM licensing addressed for Sept. expiry
(Lothar)
+ made a proposal for use of license for LibreOffice Online (Paolo)
+ collecting people -> leave it open, discuss in the next board
? (Paolo)
+ can join as well, important to represent interests (Cor)
+ CoI Cor joining? (Paolo)
+ group of three: who?
+ intersects with the marketing plan vigorously (Michael)
+ TM is a key part of this, and a disjoint group.
+ need to co-ordinate between groups ? (Lothar)
+ keep separate (Paolo)
+ one is legality, another is promoting the ecosystem.
+ keep them separate.
+ counter proposal: keep the two groups separate at least until
app store license is renewed/decided because of acute time pressure
(Thorsten)
+ would be nice to have a clear remit (Michael)
+ is it giving licenses to "LibreOffice Online",
or renewing app-store licenses or ?
AI: Making a redmine ticket for it/d), clarifying what is beside
marketing plan the task for the subgroup (Lothar)
KG22.08.1 - Agree on entity form with legal backing
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3130
Status: Currently in discussion
KG22.08.2 - Have a majoriy of the stakeholder agreeing on the plan
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3131
Status: Currently collecting/discussing plans and proposals
KG22.08.3 - Establish entity and start execution
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3132
Status: Stalled until decision on entity has been taken
KG22.08.4 - Align marketing with TDC
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3133
Status: Stalled until business entity is in place
4. Inform & Discuss: Status of redmine tickets of last board meetings
(Lothar, Stephan/Florian, All 10 min)
Rationale: Clarifying what is pending, questions to reports in
redmine tickets, and what todo, who is caring, until when, it is not the
intention to speak about all, but the important or urgent ones
Membership Committee election (Florian)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/803
Status: Started. Nomination phase until August 27. Election afterwards.
+ waiting for candidates (Florian)
Digital tool for participation improvement (Daniel)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3251
Status: Daniel evaluating on VPS at TDF infra, will then come back
with proposal
Next Decade Manifesto (Lothar)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3288
Status: Postponed to after marketing plan
coordination of LibOCon internal meetings (Sophie)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3293
Status: Sophie asking the groups. MC wants to have a meeting, team
not during that week. Ask BoD during their next call what they prefer.
-> Sophie: Does BoD want a meeting? Which time (think of time zones!)?
+ full timetable during LibOCon (Florian)
+ avoid BoD-meeting during LibOCon (Florian)
+ LibOCon is unique possibility, BoD to have time to discuss joined
with TC, maybe some overlapping works (Thorsten)
+ little availability for the team due to organizing items during
LibOCon (Sophie)
+ public or private? (Thorsten)
+ most likely private (Florian)
+ proposal to split into public and private, 3 h meeting, first half
an hour public? (Lothar)
Just to be discussed if any news on:
KG22.03.1 - Encourage Italo, Mike, Heiko, Sophie, Olivier, Xisco,
Ilmari to grow community (Ilmari)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3114
Status: Want to measure effects. First ideas shared in ticket. Have
plan the next week. Ilmari to lead.
KG22.04.1 - Run five Community Bonding / Hackfest Events in
significant geographies (Ilmari)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3116
Status: First ideas shared in ticket. Have plan the next two weeks.
Ilmari to lead. Blogpost draft done by Mike.
KG22.05.1 - Focused on new / younger contributors (Mike)
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3118
Status: In progress
KG22.05.2 - More creative / pro-active marketing + emphasising our
unique strengths (Mike)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3119
Status: Pending marketing plan, which is currently in discussion
KG22.05.3 - Find & turn USPs into nice stories about the project (Mike)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3120
Status: Pending marketing plan, which is currently in discussion
KG22.05.4 - Encourage OpenOffice users to join us pro-actively (Mike)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3121
Status: In progress. Some (private) ideas shared in the ticket. Need
to decide how/when to make ideas public. Marketing-priv?
KG22.06.1 - Team to present workshop at LibOCon 2020 (Ilmari)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3123
Status: Workshop will be scheduled for LibOCon 2020
KG22.06.2 - Decision yes/no/where to go by LibOCon 2021
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3124
Status: Scheduled for LibOCon next year
KG22.07.1 - Write programme description (Italo)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3126
Status: Pending. Florian got contact to Berlin university, Italo
will follow-up with them too.
KG22.07.2 - Pilot & move to goal of finding five students for six
month evaluation appointments (Italo)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3127
Status: Pending
KG22.07.3 - Re-evaluate wrt. scaling this up by libocon 2020 (Italo)
URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3128
Status: Pending
Public meeting ends at 13:43 Berlin time.
Agenda items of private part
5. Inform: appointment from TDF side with public affairs (Lothar,
Florian, Thorsten) (board members 2 min)
Reason why in private: because having not an ok for publicity of the
contacts
Rational: information of all board members about appointment
6. Inform: status of issue searching wealth management for foundation
capital stock, seeking for a second proposal from the BW-Bank (1st bank
for foundation wealth magnt in Germany) (Lothar, board members 3min)
Reason why in private: confidential information about finance
decision making
Rational: status quo
7. Discuss & Plan: pending AI for removing redmine tickets from the
past, needed discussion in the board because of no consensus about
removing (Paolo, Thorsten, board members 10min)
Reason why in private: confidential information in tickets
Rational: status quo, further to dos
8. Inform & Discuss: Sort out pending private redmine tickets of last
private board meetings (Stephan, board members 5 min)
Reason why in private: in the nature of the private tickets
Rational: Clarifying what is pending, and what to do, who is caring,
until when, it is not the intention to speak about all, but the
important or urgent ones, do we need still a Redmine ticket for it?
Private meeting ends at 14:01 Berlin time.
Lothar Becker (Session chair)
Stephan Ficht (Keeper of the minutes)
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