Hi Andreas, Andreas Mantke píše v Čt 08. 09. 2022 v 21:01 +0200:
> > * Anything closer to be voted on? (Thorsten) > > * another round of editing document (Kendy) > > * closer to be voted on > > * it's in shared folder > > * another round of edits on his documents > > * Paolo made last edits on Friday, will look into it soon > > * glad to hear, re-added some comments to latest version (Paolo) > > * no massive rush right now, been in the making for a while > > (Thorsten) > > AI: add to agenda of next board call > > Folder with developers proposal (under Shared/Developers) > > Latest version 2.6 - Comments in version 2.5-With-Comments > > https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/f/960049 > > > looks like I learned another sort of management strategies: > > management by continuous postponement I am not sure what do you mean; we are working hard with Paolo on the document to minimize areas that are mutually unacceptable, and I am pleased to see that the amount of problematic points is decreasing with every version. If you compare the document in the current state with my or Paolo's first version, you will see the huge amount of work we have both put into this. I am also extremely pleased that we are both able to work on one shared ODT document together. As to the current state, I cannot speak for Paolo (so Paolo, please correct me if I'm wrong), but from my point of view it is now clear that: 1. We both agree TDF should hire developers. I've moved on from my "more development mentors instead of developers, please" position long ago; I think it was even documented on this ML. 2. We both agree that the Board has the ultimate deciding power. 3. We have accepted and/or removed many problematic parts (ranging from words to full paragraphs) all over the document. 4. We are still finding middle-ground for the role of ESC. (For example, the idea that TDF in-house developers wouldn't be bound by ESC rules and decisions the same way as volunteer and/or corporate contributors is not acceptable for me, and so far I am unfortunately failing to come up with formulation that is acceptable for Paolo.) 5. We are still finding middle-ground for some details around knowledge sharing/mentoring in areas where the in-house developers become experts. (But I think in this area, we are much closer to a conclusion, compared to 4.) I've spent many hours answering the comments in the 2.5-With-Comments today, and I'm finalizing the 2.7 that will be hopefully again one more step closer to being acceptable by both of us; but unfortunately it is too late to upload it now - hope to do it tomorrow early. All the best, Kendy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy