Thank you for the clarification.

Yes, I will be at the IIW.

Looking forward to meet you there!

=nat

Mike Jones wrote:
> My apologies then.  I took your sentence "I do not think Local Chapters 
> policy needs to wait for the completion of such." as your agreement to 
> proceed to approve the revised local chapters policy without the procedures 
> yet being defined for recognition of national chapters, with the 
> understanding that we would work on that separately, and when ready, approve 
> them as a second document complementary to the local chapters policy.
>
> As a pragmatic matter, no reference is needed to a national chapters policy 
> in the local chapters policy for a national chapters policy to be adopted, 
> therefore the document as approved today in no way impedes the creation and 
> adoption of a national chapters policy.  Furthermore, until such time as one 
> is adopted, the deleted language about how the OIDF may choose identify a 
> local chapter as a designated national chapter gains potential national 
> chapters nothing, because the OIDF would not ever recognize a national 
> chapter without a national chapters policy being in place anyway.  And in the 
> mean time, the now-approved draft is actually cleaner without this dangling 
> reference to a not-yet-defined national chapters policy.
>
> Finally, I'll add that the approved policy achieved your major goal of 
> enabling people to be members of local chapters without a requirement for 
> them to also join the OIDF.
>
> Therefore, I would politely ask that OpenID Japan choose to become a local 
> chapter of the OIDF under the approved policy at this time (a policy that you 
> get a lot of credit for creating!).
>
> We can then continue to do more good work together on creating a national 
> chapters policy that is complementary to the local chapters policy.
>
> Thanks again to you and your colleagues for your passion to promote OpenID in 
> Japan!
>
> Any chance I'll get to see you at IIW next week?  Hope so!
>
>                                 Sincerely,
>                                 -- Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:58 PM
> To: [email protected]; Mike Jones
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Might Miss the Call
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> What do you mean by "without language about a national chapters policy."?
> You mean dropping the sentence entirely from the Local Chapters Policy?
> Then I have not said yes to it.
>
> =nat
>
> Mike Jones wrote:
>   
>> About the local chapters policy, we have an agreement from Nat and Snorri 
>> that they are good with us approving a local chapters policy based on the 
>> current drafts and without language about a national chapters policy.  This 
>> is significant progress and would let Europe and Japan become local chapters 
>> under a recognized policy.  Therefore, I'm going to produce a cleaned-up 
>> draft and have us vote on it.  With respect to the IPR, this text isn't a 
>> change from our existing approved policy, therefore I don't see this as a 
>> blocking issue for approving a local chapters policy that brings everyone 
>> into the fold.
>>
>> About the specifications council, the report on the PAPE working group is 
>> DUE BY SATURDAY.  Therefore waiting until Monday isn't ok.  If Josh has not 
>> responded and you try to call him one more time, then you and Johnny should 
>> act as the majority and notify the board and Dick and I who the 5 members 
>> are today so we can start to work on the report.  We only have 2 days as it 
>> is!
>>
>> Hope to have you on the call.
>>
>>                                 Thanks,
>>                                 -- Mike
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Recordon
>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 1:31 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [OpenID board] Might Miss the Call
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm currently in Dublin and was planning on making the call via Skype
>> though the hotel internet access is quite shoddy.  I'll try to call
>> in, but if I don't make it here are my thoughts given the agenda.
>>
>> * General business (minutes approved, finance update)
>> +1 to approving the last set of minutes
>>
>> * Local chapters policy review and vote - Mike Jones
>> It sounds like great progress has been made in the latest draft of the
>> policy, though given the current discussion it doesn't feel like we're
>> quite there yet.  The two outstanding issues seem to be how to deal
>> with "national chapters" and the wording around IP in terms of if we
>> can allow Creative Commons licensing to make things simpler.  I am not
>> in support of approving the current local chapters policy and then
>> later writing a national chapters policy.  Instead I think that we
>> should have the local chapters policy address local/national chapters
>> so that we have one fewer policy.  As it stands I am -1 for approving
>> the current local chapters policy.
>>
>> * Member election logistics for PAPE working group - Mike Jones
>> Not quite sure what this means, if someone is able to clarify before
>> the meeting I'll give my thoughts. :)
>>
>> * Report from specifications council - ?
>> Johnny Bufu and I have reached consensus around the five editor
>> appointed people for the specs council.  We're still waiting to hear
>> back from Josh.  I pinged him about it yesterday and will do so again
>> today.  I'm hopeful that we can be done with the council by our
>> meeting Monday though we still need to ask the five people if they're
>> willing to be on it.
>>
>> * Amended bylaws
>> I was on the call last week along with Bill, Mike, Dave, and David
>> around amending the bylaws.  I believe there is now a new draft of
>> them which I am -1 for approving.  I am not convinced that a forever
>> growing board with a small executive committee is the right structure
>> for the Foundation.  I'm hoping that we'll be discussing this next
>> Monday during the F2F.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> --David
>>
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>
> --
> Nat Sakimura (=nat)
> Nomura Research Institute, Ltd.
> XDI.ORG Vice Chair
>
>   

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Nat Sakimura (=nat)
Nomura Research Institute, Ltd. 
XDI.ORG Vice Chair

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