If we're in nomination mode, then I'd also like to nominate Snorri to
join as a community board member (if he is willing to accept that
nomination). Snorri has done amazing community work internationally
which should be directly supported by the Foundation.
On Nov 4, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Drummond Reed wrote:
+1 to all Brian’s points here. I want to clarify again that my
objection last week was not to moving forward on this – I am very
supportive of adding additional corporate board members immediately
-- it was only to the difficulty of closing what turned out to be a
contentious issue via an email vote.
I am all for holding a vote this week if we want to call a meeting.
Worst case we could hold the vote at the BOD meeting next Monday
afternoon at IIW. (Have we set an exact time/location for that
meeting? Will there be dial-in so all board members can participate
if they are not at IIW in person?)
Also, in terms of community board members, I would like to nominate
Brian Kissel to join as a community board member (if he is willing
to accept that nomination). I’d move for that vote to be held at the
same time so he could join the board at the same time as the new
corporate board members.
=Drummond
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Kissel
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 4:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion
+1 with Dick on additional corporate members. I’ve had
conversations with BBC (Zac Bjelogrlic, Dirk-willem Van.gulik ) and
PayPal (Andrew Nash) and know that both organizations would both
like to join. I don’t know who else in on the list of possible new
members, but if we have up to 5 corporate spots to fill and these
two firms are willing to make a commitment of time and dollars, I
think we should not delay.
BBC has already shown their leadership by hosting the Content
Provider Advisory Committee meeting in NYC several weeks ago.
They’ve also OpenID enabled RadioPop and are looking at additional
properties to roll out. They’ve offered to work with NPR (who was
also at the NYC session) to see if we can get BBC, NPR, PBS, and CBC
to collaborate on OpenID enablement initiatives. And in any case,
we need some large representative RPs on the BOD. As I’ve said
before, I think media companies are a next logical adopter of
OpenID, so would welcome BBC’s membership.
PayPal would also be great because they have a lot of experience in
managing phishing and general security infrastructure and represent
the perspective of merchants and payment infrastructure providers,
which we need represented on the BOD if we want to continue to
expand the applicability and value of OpenID beyond user generated
content access.
I don’t know if these are the companies we’re thinking about voting
on near term, but if so, I would strongly endorse their membership.
I also agree with Dick that getting the funding commitment from
these two companies in uncertain financial times is critical and
will actually help with hiring the new ED and coming up with a
reasonable budget for the various initiatives we’ll want to
undertake in 2009. For those that didn’t see Nat Sakimura’s
announcement about OpenID Japan, they are making great progress and
we need to have equally compelling aspirations.
With respect to community membership, JanRain would certainly
welcome the opportunity to contribute as a BOD member, but we’ll
continue to participate via my membership on the Marketing and
Customer Research Committee regardless.
We are working with Research Media to get the OpenID membership
polling solution working this week and the BOD election system
working next week. Regardless of that, I don’t think we should
wait on the BOD vote the two additional corporate members.
There is a lot of good buzz going on right now with the Microsoft
and Google announcements. If we could also announce these two new
corporate BOD members at IIW, that we can continue to build on that
momentum.
So, IMHO, we should do the vote on the 2 additional corporate
sponsors right now (assuming they are still willing) and finalize
them this week. If we want to wait on community members, that’s
fine with me.
Cheers,
Brian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dick Hardt
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion
I don't see any advantage to the coupling of hiring an ED and
bringing on new board members. Any ED is going to look at the risk
of getting paid. Bringing in money before hand is a good sign. In
the current economic climate, making a donation to a Foundation is
going to come under increased scrutiny.
The bylaws allow the board to appoint temporary community board
members as need be -- something we would want to do in case someone
needs to resign for some reason.
Only bringing on corporate members one at elections does not serve
us well. We have a product, which is membership, and we should
remove barriers to selling it rather then raising it -- and
requiring the timing to coincide with an election does not serve
anyone well -- except those that want to make board membership
exclusive.
We have been working on having elections since last March.
As noted in my financial report, not bringing these corporate
members on board was a bad financial decision.
-- Dick
On 24-Oct-08, at 6:49 PM, DeWitt Clinton wrote:
Sort of. I think we should have finished the discussion about how
to proceed with a full five new corporate board members, timed that
around the hiring of the new ED, and ideally scheduled all of it
around the election of new community members. With those three
pieces in place we then could make a coordinated engagement on all
three. Four pieces, in fact, as we can count the CRC in there as
well.
I share your frustration, Dick, and I agree that sometimes a vote
makes a good forcing function. It's taken far too long to get where
we are, and I happen to concur that those were fine nominees. And I
especially welcome Brian's continued leadership in any case.
Hopefully this is the kick in the pants we need to close in
expediently on the missing pieces. And then I'd welcome seeing this
come up for a vote again in the near future.
Cheers,
-DeWitt
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Do you have a suggestion on how this should have been done
differently by me?
I made the motion on the board call and agreed to withdraw it until
after the membership committee report was published, and then we
could do the vote over email. Agreed that the vote should have been
started on the public list -- but we are here now.
Do you have a new motion to bring the nominees on the board that you
would support that we could act upon?
-- Dick
On 24-Oct-08, at 5:17 PM, DeWitt Clinton wrote:
This is not a vote against any of the nominees, but procedurally and
organizationally we can do better than this. Hence to the motion as
it stands at this time:
-1
-DeWitt
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Raj Mata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
-1.
Agree with Gary.
Raj
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Krall, Gary
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion
-1.
As we are actively in the process of recruiting for a Executive
Director
which my understanding is should complete shortly coupled; with the
manner in which this vote has been requested/handled is a clear
indication to me that adding any additional members at this time would
not be prudent.
Gary.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Dick Hardt
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion
Importance: High
(this motion was originally posted on the board-private list to
protect the confidentiality of the potential corporate board members
-- reposting to public list to provide transparency to community)
Background:
There are two corporations that have expressed interest in joining the
OpenID Foundation for the last six months. The board approved adding 5
new corporate board seats, to be balanced with community seats so that
the community seats have a majority.
Brian Kissel has been active on the marketing committee and the
customer research committee. He organized a gathering of content
providers in NY that led to the OpoenID UX summit last Monday.
The primary source of funding for the Foundation is corporate board
seats. In order to fund a new Executive Director and OpenID adoption
initiatives, we need more funding. The patience of the two
corporations is running thin as they have been waiting for far to long
for a decision from the board.
The motion: Add the two corporate board seats and add Brian Kissel as
the community seat. Brian's seat (like all other community board
seats) would be up for re-election when we hold an election.
All board members need to vote or abstain for the motion to be
considered.
Votes to date:
+1 Dick Hardt (made motion)
+1 Martin Atkins (seconded motion)
-1 David Recordon
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