Building on this (since I agree with Dick), it is however part of the Foundation's job to help facilitate the community determining the right UX where it can. Thus hosting meetings, helping with research, etc are all things the Foundation can and should be doing.

--David

On Jan 5, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Dick Hardt wrote:

Hi Chris

I'm breaking it down along types of work.

I do think it is the Foundation's job to do the marketing. It is in the charter.

It is NOT the Foundation's job to determine the right UX -- which is why including the JanRain code on the Foundation website was so controversial (IMHO).

The Foundation charter clearly states that the Foundation does NOT set the technical direction of OpenID. I wanted to clarify this point in case you and other board members were not familiar with it.

-- Dick

On 4-Jan-09, at 5:37 PM, Chris Messina wrote:

It seems like you're breaking things down along the lines of "what" comprises OpenID and "how" it advances in the marketplace -- or at least that's how I'm interpreting your statement.

Unfortunately marketing a shitty product won't get us very far, so I'd say that UX is just as primary as marketing. It might not be up to the board to "do" the UX work, but nor is it the board's job to "do" the marketing.

Facilitate both, certainly -- and given where we are -- I'd say with equal vigor.

Chris

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Dick Hardt <[email protected]> wrote: Chris, your comments bring up an important scope issue: I would consider user experience to be a technical issue, and if so, not an issue for the board to determine -- but an area for the board to facilitate activity.

Marketing of OpenID is clearly within the the scope of the board.

-- Dick


On 4-Jan-09, at 3:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:

Absolutely. As aboard member, id love for my two areas to be user
experience Nd marketing!



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