+1 ... this would be a great thing to clarify in the by-laws ... I'll make a note of it.
- Scott On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Mike Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > I am a board member appointed by Microsoft just like you are a board member > elected by the membership. Both of us serve as individuals, albeit, with > different procedures that granted us our board seats (both of which > procedures were approved by the previous board). > > Microsoft's membership class in OIDF gives them a right to appoint a board > member. The corporation is not the board member. > > Should I no longer be Microsoft's board representative (as they do have the > right to replace me) and I am elected to an officer position, that position > would go vacant and the vacancy would have to be filled a special officer > election by the board. > > You would be choosing me -- not Microsoft. Hope this clarifies things. > > -- Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > David Recordon > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: =nat > Subject: Re: [OpenID board] First board meeting of 2009 ... > > Mike et al, > I think some of where this breaks down is around who the board member > is. My understanding is that Microsoft -- the corporation -- is a > board member who is represented by Mike Jones -- the person. I thus > do not see how it makes sense for Microsoft to hold an officer > position within the Foundation. > > --David > > On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:15 AM, Mike Jones wrote: > >> You can find the last set of approved bylaws at >> http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2008/11/adopted-bylaws-openid-foundation-june-2007.pdf >> . Unfortunately, they're so old as to not even discuss the addition >> of the new corporate board members. (Updating to bylaws to match >> the reality of the decisions made by the board in the last year-and- >> a-half is one of the things that just plain didn't happen during >> this board's tenure.) >> >> As for being one board, we clarified this point by a vote of the >> board on April 24th, 2008. The minutes record this motion passing >> unanimously: >> >> Motion 1: Henceforward, all votes about any matters affecting OIDF >> and its board will be open to all board members. >> As per normal ethical conduct guidelines, individual board members >> are expected to recuse themselves in cases of conflicts of interest. >> >> While the text of the motion only talks about votes, the spirit of >> what we clarifying with the motion was best summed up in David >> Recordon's message of April 21st, 2008: "+1 to Mike's motion. >> We're one board. :)". >> >> Other than that they are selected via different mechanisms and that >> there must always be at least one more community corporate board >> member than corporate board member, there's no difference in the >> rights and responsibilities of the two kinds of board members. >> >> To make this concrete, I believe that it would benefit the >> foundation if I were elected to one of the officer positions -- >> possibly Vice-President, but would be open to other possibilities. >> The reason that I believe you want me as an officer is that I have a >> strong, demonstrated track record of getting things done for the >> foundation. Those things include (in roughly reverse chronological >> order) chairing the elections committee (which brought you the >> recent election), starting and co-chairing the PAPE working group >> (demonstrating that the IPR policy works and producing a useful >> spec), serving on the specs council and trying to get it to respond >> in a timely fashion (still a work in progress), co-chairing the >> local chapters committee (which brought you the approved local >> chapters policy), and shepherding the process of writing and getting >> approval for the IPR policy and procedures. >> >> Best wishes, >> -- Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:58 PM >> To: Raj Mata >> Cc: [email protected]; =nat >> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] First board meeting of 2009 ... >> >> Can anyone point me to the bylaws concerning corporate membership? I'd >> like to understand more about the restrictions or responsibilities (if >> any) placed on such memberships. >> >> Chris >> >> On 1/5/09, Raj Mata <[email protected]> wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> Just got back from vacation, and have been catching up on my emails. >>> >>> First of all, wish everyone a terrific 2009! >>> >>> Second, congratulations to the new board members (and thank you >>> Mike for >>> making the elections a reality!) >>> >>> Regarding this thread below, my understanding is: >>> >>> a) The executive committee is comprised of 5 board members (The four >>> current officers called out by Scott below + a working group >>> liaison as >>> called out by Mike) >>> >>> b) There is no requirement or distinction between corporate or >>> community >>> members for the executive committee i.e. the executive committee >>> could >>> theoretically be all 5 community board members or all 5 corporate >>> board >>> members. Once we have a board, then it is purely a matter of >>> picking the >>> right people from the board who have the skills and bandwidth to do >>> the >>> job. >>> >>> Did I get that right? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Raj >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Mike Jones >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:04 AM >>> To: [email protected]; Chris Messina >>> Cc: =nat >>> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] First board meeting of 2009 ... >>> >>> I'm the 5th board member on the current Executive Committee -- in the >>> role of liaison to the working groups. I'm also one of two >>> board-appointed members to the Specifications Council. (The other is >>> Dick Hardt.) >>> >>> -- Mike >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Scott Kveton >>> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 10:59 AM >>> To: Chris Messina >>> Cc: [email protected]; =nat >>> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] First board meeting of 2009 ... >>> >>>> The 8th is good for me as well. >>>> Which officer positions are available, how do we go about picking >>> them, and >>>> who served them on the previous board? Are there any transition >>>> plans? >>> >>> All of the officer positions are available ... we have to fill and >>> who >>> is currently in them: >>> >>> Chair - Scott Kveton >>> Vice-Chair - David Recordon >>> Secretary - Martin Atkins >>> Treasurer - Dick Hardt >>> >>> The Executive Committee is made up of these officers and one member >>> of >>> the corporate board and was put together to help execute on things >>> without having the entire board involved in every decision. >>> >>> The transition plan should be easy enough. Bill Washburn has cooked >>> up a transition plan for the ED (once we figure out what we're doing >>> there) and I've been involved in the finances enough to be able to >>> help with that as well. >>> >>> We'll want to make sure we transition the committees >>> appropriately ... >>> I don't think there is any requirement that committees be made up or >>> chaired by board members but we'll want to make sure that everything >>> is taken care of. >>> >>> - Scott >>> _______________________________________________ >>> board mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> board mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >>> >> >> >> -- >> Chris Messina >> Citizen-Participant & >> Open Web Advocate-at-Large >> >> factoryjoe.com # diso-project.org >> citizenagency.com # vidoop.com >> This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >> >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > [email protected] > http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > [email protected] > http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board > _______________________________________________ board mailing list [email protected] http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board
