This motion has been seconded by Mike, Raj, Eric, Brian, and Gary.  Therefore 
we're starting the 7 day notification and discussion clock for an online 
board-only vote.  There will be a separate vote for each motion.

If anyone has suggestions on how to ensure that the discussion and voting 
process complies with our bylaws, is fair, open, and efficient, please provide 
your input.  Given that board meetings are only every six weeks and that 
historically it's been hard to get a large percentage of our board members to 
participate on calls, I'd like to suggest that we try to do more routine 
administrative votes via our board voting tool.  If, during the notification 
and discussion period, we determine that the issues are too involved or complex 
to adequately decide via an online vote, we can always cancel the online vote 
and defer the vote until the next regularly scheduled board meeting.  Does that 
sound reasonable to everyone?

One thing that I haven't seen is how long we should keep the polls open for 
each vote.  For the board nominations and elections, it was 2 weeks, which made 
sense.  However, one of our goals in 2009 is to be more timely in our 
execution.  So I'd like to suggest that the default period for an online board 
vote is 7 days or until the required majority has been reached.  For example, 
on the International Liaison vote, we already have 10 yes votes and zero no 
votes in one day, so I believe that this motion has passed.

Looking forward to feedback from others.

Cheers,

Brian
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Fax: 503.296.5502

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Raj Mata
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Smoothing the OpenID Process

+1

________________________________
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Eric Sachs
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Smoothing the OpenID Process

Also agreed, thx Nat
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Mike Jones 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

These motions all make sense to me - particularly since creation of the PAPE 
working group was delayed for so long due to specs council issues and I'm 
watching the same play out with the current proposals.  Having been there when 
we came up with the idea of the specs council, the idea behind it was for it to 
provide useful feedback cutting across the different specifications while 
proposals were being discussed and to make a timely recommendation once a 
proposal was formally submitted - NOT to be an impediment to the creation of 
working groups or a hurdle that proposals had to clear.



Thanks for taking the time to write these up, Nat.  They should make the specs 
council reality more closely match the intent, and substantially improve the 
present situation.



                                                                Thanks,

                                                                -- Mike



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of 
Brian Kissel
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:17 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Smoothing the OpenID Process



Nat, thank you for your proactive efforts to help improve the effectiveness and 
efficiency of our spec process.  As I understand it, the board needs to vote on 
your motions, then present to the membership for approval.  I second all four 
of Nat's motions below for a vote by the board.



Hopefully we'll have the board polling tool working this week, so look for an 
email notification for pending board votes on each of these motions.



If others would like to discuss Nat's proposals before the vote, please provide 
your thoughts to the group.



Cheers,

Brian

==============

Brian Kissel

Cell: 503.866.4424

Fax: 503.296.5502



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of 
Nat Sakimura
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:01 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [OpenID board] Smoothing the OpenID Process



Hi.

After having worked through PAPE 1.0 spec process, as well as some other spec 
proposals, I noticed that there can be several things that we can do to smooth 
the process. I think they were worthwhile excercises to find out these glitches.

Followings are the proposed motions that I would like the board to consider. 
There are two types: one that can take effect immediately, and one that 
requires board and membership voting.

I. For immediate implementation of the current process:

One of the obstacles that we have found during the process was that it was kind 
of hard to get the specs council to deliver the recommendation in a timely 
fashion. It has seen some improvement recently, but we want to make sure to 
continue it. Thus, I would like to propose the following:

BE IT RESOLVED that the OIDF Committee Liason is directed to act as the 
coordinator for the specification council so that specification council create 
a recommendation for the membership about a formal working group proposal 
within 15 days of the complete proposal being circulated on 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> to comply to the current OpenID 
process.

II. Improvements of curent porcess

As a longer term solution, I would like to propose the following three motions. 
The first two are to make sure the timely and effective response from the specs 
council, and the last one is to protect the OpenID(TM) as well as to make it 
easier to create a WG so that all the discussion will be done inside the WG and 
the output is IPR clean.

BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have agreed to amend 
the OpenID process document so that should the specifications council not 
create a recommendation for the membership about a formal working group 
proposal within 15 days of the complete proposal being circulated on 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, then the proposal may proceed to a 
membership vote for approval.

BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have agreed to amend 
the OpenID process document so that should specs council members not 
participate in the discussion of two consecutive working group proposals, they 
will be deemed to have resigned, and new specs council members who are 
committed to participating in the process will be appointed to replace them.

BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have agreed to amend 
the OpenID process document to clarify that no draft may claim OpenID trademark 
until it is ratified to be an implementor's draft status or full specification 
status.

Please note that these consitute the core decision for IPR and process, so it 
will have to go through the membership vote as well after creating the actual 
errata.

Cheers,

=nat

--
Nat Sakimura (=nat)
http://www.sakimura.org/en/



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