No, William wants linear to be the default and the old version to be Opt in.  

I would rather see if there was some way to fix this without splitting it.  If 
there isn't, then make the linear version be opt in, not the old one.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Oliver Bock [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 4:26 AM
To: McLeod, John; William; Jon Sonntag
Cc: BOINC Developers Mailing List @berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] Estimated Time Remaining, frictional reporting ...

* PGP - S/MIME Signed by an unverified key: 2/17/2014 at 4:25:53 AM

Hi John,

On 14/02/14 3:48 , McLeod, John wrote:
> Having the current method be opt in is no better than having a new method be 
> opt in – for exactly the same reasons.

I concur with William: if projects miss to opt for using the
linear/dynamic flag they'll only hurt themselves. This is a
self-correcting issue as projects have a strong interest in retaining
volunteers and not drive them away by using/causing sub-optimal runtime
estimates.


Best,
Oliver


> From: William [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 9:02 PM
> To: McLeod, John; Jon Sonntag
> Cc: BOINC Developers Mailing List @berkeley.edu
> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] Estimated Time Remaining, frictional reporting ...
> 
> Fixing the estimates is hard.  Worth improving, but not a reliable fix 
> strategy by itself.
> 
> Improving the percent complete and estimated remaining run time calculation 
> is a lot easier - but the proposal is that this be a non-default fix, which 
> makes it also unreliable because projects cannot be relied upon to opt into 
> the fix.
> 
> Duration Correction Factor - either this is a form of improved calculation or 
> else it relies on opt-in from the projects or opt-in from the user, the 
> latter being disastrous and both being unreliable.
> 
> Reliable fix strategy:
> 
> 1) Improve the default percent complete and estimated remaining run time 
> calculations - this becomes linear.
> 
> 2) Provide a dynamic calculations opt-in flag for those projects wishing to 
> stay with original runtime estimates.  Gross errors (including failure to 
> opt-in) now become the fault of the project, not the BOINC client and 
> especially not the user.  Also try to improve the dynamic calculations (less 
> heavily weighted against the linear result).



* Oliver Bock <[email protected]>
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