i'd love to have a formal meeting on 0.7.  i think we have a lot of good
changes to make for then (more inline below).  unfortunately given our
overlap, the first time i'll have available is next friday (~2 weeks) as i
work this friday :(  is that too far out?  if so i might be able to swing
something if we can keep it to an hour at a time during the noon hour (or
unless it is over the weekend of course).

next see below for comments on your todo list

> In terms of server stuff before 1.0, I think we need:
>
>     * better bongo-manager;
i'm interested to see what you've worked up on this as this is a pretty
critical piece to getting agents running on multiple boxes.  we had
originally thought there would be one bongo-manager per server that would
be running and that they would somehow communicate which had the store on
it.

>     * the queue rework, including some kind of mailq implementation and
>       much more visibility/control;
the queue changes we've discussed in the past will fix all of the agent
restarting issues as we'll be able to get rid of the callback system for
something like collection watches.  this will be a fair amount of work
though as we'll have to re-do portions of all the queue agents currently
in use.  also we'll be able to get a sane mailq by just doing a select out
of the db.  the only worry i have is running into locking issues, though
the worry might be completely unfounded depending on how we are going to
implement the queue inside the store.

>     * direct message queues for agents to talk to each other [store?]
this is an interesting thought that we haven't really discussed yet (that
i can remember).  agents talking to each other would be nice so that we
could get connmgr type functionality back in the future in a more sane
way.  i suppose this could also be used for snmp stats though we had
thought of using bongo-manager for that.

>     * a better grasp on what works/doesn't work in the TLS area [connio];
tls...  i've spent the better part of the last two hours looking at this
and i don't see any reason that this shouldn't work unless there is
something silly going on with the hostnames.  i tried to connect to
bongo-test.info via the gnutls test tool and found that it denied me
access because "localhost" wasn't in the cert.  i'm sending a separate
email to jur to see if he's got some odd nat going on that might
complicate things, however my tests to the domain he was having issues
with seem to run fine off my self signed cert.

>     * full-text indexing [store]
no real comment on this, other than i'm sure we need it for conversations
and we lost it when we dropped clucene?

>
> It's not really an awful lot; and aside from that it's basically the web
> bits which are the killer.
>
i totally agree here.  if we could get UI functionality like what DF gave
us i think we'd rock as a full up system as we currently stand, but then
again i'm a bit biased :)




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