Thanks for the ideas.

Has anyone else got alternatives or strong feelings about this phoning 
home feature?

Regards

Lance

On 01/13/2010 07:42 PM, Michael Papet wrote:
> Just document the fact it's phoning home and what it is doing when in the act 
> of phoning home and how to disable it.    In a related note, it might be a 
> good idea to collect uptime/crash info while it's phoning home.  As long as 
> the 'phoning home' isn't terribly complicated, (ex. a script) then it won't 
> be an issue for even an amateur admin.
>
> There might be somebody at some point cry foul, but the reasonable reply is 
> "It's documented.  If it's a problem for you, turn it off. This kind of flame 
> baiting is not welcome."  Or more derogatory, "You want to cry wolf over this 
> one?  It's well documented including how to turn it off. Begone!"
>
> Mike.
> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Lance Haig<[email protected]>  wrote:
>
>> From: Lance Haig<[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Bongo-devel] Bongo-devel Digest, Vol 37, Issue 2
>> To: "Michael Papet"<[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:59 AM
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I have a cronjob already but some people might not like the
>> fact the server will be "phoning home", that is why I put it
>> to the lists so that we can see how many people object.
>>
>> Thanks for the offer though I might make use of your skills
>> at a later  stage.
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
>> Lance
>>
>>
>> On 13 Jan 2010, at 17:02, Michael Papet wrote:
>>
>>> Lance, this is pretty easy.
>>>
>>> use a wget job to download a url.  'wget http://bongo.org/hello.htm' to 
>>> /tmp.  wget has an
>> overwrite option.   The trick is to randomize
>> the day/hour/minute on the cron job.  Otherwise you
>> will have the 'thundering herd' problem.
>>>
>>> Track the number of hits on the url with a web log
>> parser.
>>>
>>> Wget should be standard on any linux distro.
>>>
>>> I can work a perl/bash script up for you, but it'll
>> take quite a bit of time as my schedule right now is very
>> tight.
>>>
>>> Mike.
>>> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, [email protected]
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>>>> From: Lance Haig<[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: [Bongo-devel] Usage Tracking Ideas
>>>> To: Bongo Developers<[email protected]>,
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>>>> Hi All,
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>>>> I have been creating images for Bongo now for a
>> few years
>>>> and one of the problems we have is that we have no
>> idea how
>>>> many people use the images or Bongo for that
>> matter.
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking how we could create some way to
>> show user
>>>> numbers.
>>>>
>>>> I have seen that another project has a cronjob
>> that
>>>> downloads a txt file from the project web server
>> and then
>>>> deletes it.
>>>>
>>>> This gives them the rough numbers of servers out
>> there and
>>>> also which countries the servers are sitting.
>>>>
>>>> On the website they tell the users of the cronjob
>> and how
>>>> to turn it off.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any ideas how we can start
>> tracking the
>>>> number of Bongo servers out there?
>>>>
>>>> I really want this to be implemented soon so we
>> can know
>>>> how many there are, this will help me to determine
>> how
>>>> urgent any fixes need to be compiled for the
>> images.
>>>>
>>>> Can I please have your thoughts and suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Lance
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