I did post this over in Hula-General then remembered this list so though I 
really should cross post to here as well.
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Jared Pickerell wrote:
> Not sure what this means for the Hula/Bongo community. Do we need to stop 
> going down the Bongo path and go back to the Hula project with the help of 
> Messaging Architects? If they are going to be supporting the project, I don't 
> know as if we want to fork. It might be the wrong thing to do for the 
> community.
>
> http://www.novell.com/coolblogs/?p=734 and 
> http://www.messagingarchitects.com/netmail
>
> Jared
>   
The problem with so many of the "Company Sponsored" mostly opensource projects 
out there now is the commercial company line of creating a commercial version 
separate from the real libre version, then artificially dropping features from 
the libre version to differentiate the two. Its not that the differences are 
due to closed source, but that the company will prevent similar features being 
developed by the community. For some examples check out both Scalix and Zimbra, 
attempts to create libre versions of the commercial features are not accepted 
into the libre version. Zimbra even takes it as far as discouraging attempts to 
unbundle the zimbra package from the included apache/mysql etc or at least make 
it a real pita.

MA have already said that they will not be including any of the AV work in 
Hula, here is the quote from the FAQ on the MA site.
"*Q. Will M+Guardian be integrated with NetMail or Hula?* No. Although 
M+Guardian is based on the Hula project, it contains a number of proprietary 
email filtering technologies that cannot be open-sourced if they are to remain 
effective deterrents against spammers and other malicious attacks"

So that means the code will not be included because it needs to use "security 
through obscurity" and it will also be one of the differentiators between the 
libre and commercial version I mentioned above.

Personally, I do not see a continuation of a company sponsored Hula as the way 
forward, especially if we are already in the "copyright retained by Novell" 
stage. MA are naturally mostly interested in Netmail and its commercial aspects 
with Hula being an incidental tagalong. This is a wonderful breeding ground for 
the Zimbra/Scalix setup all over again.

For a true community version with no lingering corporate direction issues or 
feature set incompatibilities  - Bongo all the way.

Now I have to figure out how to upgrade my r400-ish version of Hula ;-)



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