On Nov 28, 2008, at 4:49 PM, David Abrahams wrote:


on Wed Nov 26 2008, Michael Jackson <mike.jackson-AT-bluequartz.net> wrote:

Taking a deeper look into this issue (by experimenting with bjam) this
is what I am seeing (at least on OS X).

bjam errors on the side of building if I don't quite give it the right
information. For instance in the program_options testing I do the
following:

 bjam cmdline_test_dll toolset=darwin variant=debug link=static

and I actually get a shared program_options library built, which is what the regression test needs, but I don't actually get a static program_options library
built.

Because the regression test doesn't need it.  That's not erring on the
side of building; that's erring on the side of doing what's specified by
the Jamfile if it conflicts with the command-line.

There's some rationale for that
(http://zigzag.cs.msu.su/boost.build/wiki/AlternativeSelection#Example2 )
even though Boost.Build doesn't hew to that rationale consistently.

Didn't know about that page. Thanks. It does help explain what I am seeing.



I also noticed that if I start adding multiple configurations (like
single and multi-threading) I will get multiple versions of the
regression test created.

I can't see what possible alternative you could have expected.

No alternative, just a newbie noticing (and verifying) behavior.



(Which answered another question that I was going to ask).

Currently the CMake system will NOT do any of this. If this is the
behavior that is wanted then the logic will need to be added to the
cmake build files.

IIUC, CMake doesn't naturally build multiple variants in one build
command.  It was my conclusion, along with Doug G., that such
multiple-configuration builds should be handled by an external driver
script rather than trying to get CMake to do something for which it
isn't designed.  I'm not sure how well that fits with Boost's testing
regime, though. When I look at the Jamfile for program_options it seems
to be specifying two specific configurations to test.

CMake's approach would be to make a separate build directory for each build variant that was to be compiled/tested. So on Linux for example you would potentially end up with 16 build directories. At this point there is "support" for multiple variants within one CMake build directory which is sort of "abusing" cmake a bit but does seem to work at least for building the libraries.

In a "CMake" world and using the example from above, if a test requires a static-multi-threaded build of a library BUT the user has asked for a dynamic-multi-threaded then that test would not be built. This is the current implemented behavior. This means that there is NO attempt to build a static-multi-threaded library because a test required it.

The test reporting will have to make these configuration choices clear so that results can be easily and quickly reviewed.



Some one will also need to add to the boost_add_test to make sure all
the variants of the test are correctly built if asked for. The logic
for all of this will be quite "interesting" to implement.

Are these things that the boost community wants in the cmake system?
Basically to have the same behavior as bjam?

IMO we should think very carefully before moving in that direction.
There are lots of good design ideas in bjam but not everything we did
there ultimately ends up helping.  In particular, the "separate
configuration step" design of cmake (and autoconf) seems to have some
advantages over the "one big build step" approach of Boost.Build, and
the former is linked, at least partially, to the "one variant per
invocation" design of CMake.

--
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com


External build scripts and such could be a reasonable choice. The only thing I don't like about external scripts is that they are generally NOT cross-platform and you end up writing a script for windows and one for Unix.

I'm happy to help the boost community implement what ever style we decide on in the end.

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Mike Jackson                  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BlueQuartz Software                    www.bluequartz.net
Principal Software Engineer                  Dayton, Ohio



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