All,

It seems that the order of precedence is as confusing for everyone as it
is for me =p.
 
>From the discussion so far it would appear that Warning/Caution and
Note/Tip/Important each mean roughly the same thing but have a slightly
different strength of emphasis.

I think that it would be handy to come up with a useful definition for
each of the admonitions this will help document writers and clearly help
with designing or sourcing icons that try to convey each meaning.  This
definition can also be included in the Admonitions section of the
QuickBook demo document to help writers.

As Stjepan Rajko mentioned and John Maddock and Paul A Bristow
re-iterated I also think it would be useful to generate a standard
QuickBook document for Boost that provides the definitions and
conventions used throughout any documentation (kind of like what is used
within a hard copy text book to stipulate what different fonts, icons,
callout boxes mean) this can help cut away any confusion potential
readers or document writers would have.  This could be stored centrally
and then included during generation of any documentation.

In my opinion it is worth stating up front that a possible option is to
decide not to use a particular Admonition if its purpose is already
served.

I will see if I can gather our comments so far and paraphrase them
succinctly to hopefully help us come up with something.

But first I thought I would see what the Merriam-Webster dictionary
(http://www.m-w.com) said on the matter.

Tip (http://tinyurl.com/3dowrn)
        - "a : the usually pointed end of something <a pencil tip>"
        - "b : a small piece or part serving as an end, cap, or point"

Note (http://tinyurl.com/348at4)
        - "a : to notice or observe with care"
        - "b : to record or preserve in writing"
        - "c : to make special mention of or remark on"

Important (http://tinyurl.com/39g3ut) 
        - "marked by or indicative of significant worth or consequence :
valuable in content or relationship"

Warn (http://tinyurl.com/yt9zfz) 
        - "a : to give notice to beforehand especially of danger or
evil"
        - "b : to give admonishing advice to"
        - "c : to call to one's attention"

Caution (http://tinyurl.com/yogqtq)
        - "a : prudent forethought to minimize risk"
        - "b : one that astonishes or commands attention"
        - "c : to advise caution to warn"

*Colours or lack of*

I think that the agreement so far is the stronger Admonitions
(Important, Warning and Caution) should be Yellow -> Orange -> Red (note
the colour association still depends on the ultimate order of the
admonitions).  This seems to be a fairly safe convention.

For Tip and Note the colours should be subtler (Blue, Green, Black?).

As already mentioned on the wiki page and within this thread the icons
should also recognisable in black and white form.

*Shapes*

For each icon if we can find or create them I think that Tip and Note
should both be circles (with both colour and black and white versions)
and then for the other three use a Triangle, Square and Hexagon

*Order and Definition of each Admonition*

There seems to be two preferences so far as to the order:
1.      Important -> Warning -> Caution
2.      Important -> Caution -> Warning

Paul A Bristow proposed these definitions:

Note - generally useful information (an aside that doesn't fit in the
flow of the text).  (blue i)

Tip - suggestion on how to do something (especially something that not
be obvious). (light bulb - lit!)

Important - (note) on something to take particular notice of. (yellow
triangle)

Warning - take special care with this - it may not be what you expect
and have bad results. (orange triangle)

Caution - 'skull and crossbones' - this is likely to cause serious
trouble if ignored. (red road sign triangle)

Jake Voytko proposed this counterpoint:

<--Jake's comments-->

Personally, I think that "warning" is stronger than "caution", and would
flip the signs that Paul proposed. To me, "caution" means that ignoring
the admonition could lead to unexpected results. "Warning" means that
failure to follow the admonition will not only lead to unexpected
results, but that the results could also be harmful. 

The real world examples: "Caution, wet floor" is a common-place sign
that is commonly ignored, but still offers good advice. Warning labels
on products offer advice meant to spare life, limb, and health.

<--End of Jake's comments-->

*Conclusion*

I think we all basically agree on the meanings of Tip, Note and
Important.  So at the end of the day unless someone can find a logical
way to split the difference between Caution and Warning I think we
should either flip a coin and stick with that decision or just go
alphabetically ;)

I hope this email has helped gather our thoughts.

Peter.



> -----Original Message-----
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Foley
> Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 11:57 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Boost-docs] Order of precedence for the Admonitions
> 
> All,
> 
> I have a question on what you feel the order of precedence is for the
> Admonitions; specifically for Important, Caution and Warning.
> 
> Do you feel that the order is Important --> Warning  --> Caution (from
> least strong to strongest).
> 
> Also is it safe to say that if these icons were coloured Yellow -->
> Orange --> Red.  That this would help convey the strength of each
> state?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Peter
> 
>
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