Hi Tom, 
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:05:20AM -0400, Tom Rini wrote:
> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 02:40:32PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 02:04:23PM +0300, Ilias Apalodimas wrote:
> > >> > 
> > >> > The tl;dr purpose of my e-mail was 'Is implementing UEFI Secure Boot 
> > >> > for the 
> > >> > EFI playloads
> > >> 
> > >> I think that you'd better explain why you stick to *UEFI* secure boot.
> > >
> > >The main reason is distro support. Since distros use a number of different 
> > >ways
> > >of booting up on arm boards, using UEFI is the obvious way to unify that 
> > >(and
> > >alrady supported on some) regardless of the bootloader. UEFI secure boot
> > >provides a common approach to security instead of 'per bootloader' 
> > >solutions
> > 
> > Yup, absolutely (says the Debian EFI team lead) ...
> 
> The other things we need to keep in mind is that (based on my own
> experience implementing UEFI secure boot on an x8664 platform), we are
> not looking at a case of "make an existing solution function on other
> architectures" but rather "there's some good concepts here and an
> implementation waiting to be figured out".

We agree here. From Grant's proposal's #1 and #2, i'd prefer seeing something
similar to #2 implemented. 
I'd prefer having the option to authenticate DTB/initramfs from the 'main
bootloader', than delegating that to some EFI payload, mostly for fragmentation
reasons

Thanks
/Ilias
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