At 11:20 AM 1/9/2002 -0600, Chris Devers wrote:
>Ok, so I never look at F*ckedcompany & maybe that's a good thing, but I'm
>looking right now and they're running two rumors of interest:
>
>  * O'Reilly are laying off 16 people
>    Are they in trouble? In danger? What would the repurcussions of this
>    be? They seem to be pretty big advocates (biggest?) of a lot of the
>    open source stuff, particularly Perl. These projects may not end if
>    O'Reilly suffers or disappears, but they might be impeded badly, no?

At the moment it won't make much difference. The only O'Reilly person 
involved is Nat. There are OSCon issues potentially, but they wouldn't keep 
running conventions, and adding more (BioCon, P2PCon, at least) if they 
weren't showing a profit from 'em.

>  * NorthernLight may be shutting down
>    Doesn't Dan Sugalski work there? Will this impact Parrot/Perl6? Or
>    will the sponsorship thing help out here (in a recession, when not
>    as many people are going to be able to donate, and there will be
>    two sponsored developers this time around)?

Hey, we made fuckedcompany! Cool, I need to go check. :)

Rumors of our demise are greatly exaggerated. NL's just shutting down 
unpaid access to the web database. I've a press release somewhere if 
someone wants the official word. We're doing fine other than that--lots of 
companies are paying us for things. (ObPlug: If someone's got a company 
that might want to pay us for stuff, get in touch with me and I'll hook 
everyone up)

Sponsorship will always help--if I have more than spare time to work on 
parrot, things will move faster. So go donate! Even 10<insert appropriate 
currency symbol here> will help out. (I'm not sure if YAS is going to do 
partial grants or not)

                                        Dan

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