AWS (Amazon Web Services, Cloud Computing: Compute, Storage, Database) gives you a FREE virtual server with limited power, but it's probably good enough for boston.pm needs. I've been using their free demo for my personal needs (git, network debugging, cron, perl) for a year or two now. I still have to pay godaddy for my fancy domain name, but that's ~$10/year.
Duane On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:12 PM, Sean Quinlan <[email protected]> wrote: > Not my kwiki! :P > > No emergency, I think we have a couple weeks still before we'd have to > renew the old hosting if it isn't moved (one way or another). > > Cheers, > Sean > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Bill Ricker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> Sean, yes, we'll abandon your kwiki, and it looks like wikispaces a viable >> alternative. >> >> I can request PM.ORG move the DNS to refer to the new wikispaces >> moderately quickly, give me a few days before you have to pull the plug. >> What's the timeframe? >> >> Maria, i acknowledge the existing Calendar history scroll is crazy, it >> needed refactoring someday. I'm open to sensible suggestions how to >> reorganize it. Key to me is saving the history, the content. (Moving to a >> new wiki we break any deeplinks anyway, so no value to preserving >> structure.) If Wikispaces has good ways to announce coming events, go ahead >> and use them. >> >> You can add September meeting as a coming event, it will be "Patching and >> Updating a CPAN Module" with Bill and Tom. >> (-: Whether Tom can attend or not, he's co-maintainer :-) >> >> -- bill >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Maria Huang <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Sean, >>> >>> I converted some pages from http://boston.pm.org/kwiki to >>> http://boston-pm.wikispaces.com/ already, but not all of them, like Tom >>> said before, how calendar gets handled needs discussion, also I had >>> thought >>> do we need have a section to hold presentation or talk, and encourage >>> members to sign up to this new site? >>> >>> I have been busy recently so I didn't work on it. I hope I can continue >>> working on it soon but I need comments or suggestions what will be next >>> step. >>> >>> I hope I answered your question. >>> >>> Best, >>> Maria >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Sean Quinlan <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Just pinging to get an idea if this is moving anywhere. I need to move >>>> boston.pm.org to a new hosting service. I can migrate everything, but >>>> it's one less thing to manage if I don't have to keep kwiki running post >>>> move. :) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Sean >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:32 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for your detailed information, and this can give me a jump >>> start, >>>>> I will take a close look soon. >>>>> >>>>> Maria >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Tom Metro <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Bill Ricker wrote: >>>>>>>> ...Wikispaces page. (I think I have a site setup for Boston.pm >>> there, >>>>>>>> just awaiting content.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> pointer ? that might kick start group use so make it worthwhile. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://boston-pm.wikispaces.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Created a year ago. I had intended to do an initial cut of the >>>>>> conversion, but it perpetually sits just out of reach at the bottom >>> of >>>>>> my todo list. I guess now is as good a time as any to try and move it >>>>>> forward. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Maria Huang wrote: >>>>>>> ...I think I can convert pages at home... >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, there's no need to do this as an in-person meeting. That was >>> just >>>>>> an idea to create a meeting topic that would also be productive for >>> the >>>>>> group. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the reasoning behind not opening up the conversion to >>> volunteers >>>>>> before is that Bill wanted to see how it would look before >>> committing to >>>>>> switching over Boston.pm to use he new service. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> And any deadline for this? >>>>>> >>>>>> None. The sooner it goes done, the sooner Bill can reduce or >>> eliminate >>>>>> his efforts to repair spam and vandalism that occurs with our current >>>>> wiki. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> And where is old wiki site? >>>>>> >>>>>> http://boston.pm.org/kwiki/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> ...just need some instructions. >>>>>> >>>>>> The first step is to go to: >>>>>> http://boston-pm.wikispaces.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> and login (you can use OpenID) or create an account, and then request >>>>>> membership in the Boston.pm wikispace. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've picked a theme, colors, and created a logo. (That's the "Ubuntu >>>>>> Mono" font. I struggled to find something evocative of a terminal >>> font >>>>>> that still looked OK when scaled up to logo size. That aside, I just >>>>>> combined the stock Perl onion with "Boston.pm". You should compare >>> it to >>>>>> the logo I did for the Boston.pm LinkedIn group, as you might like >>> that >>>>>> better.) >>>>>> >>>>>> I converted over the main page. A little bit of intro text, links to >>>>>> pm.org, perl.org, our mailing list page (needs to be created), our >>> jobs >>>>>> posting policy page (needs to be created), and I threw in a Creative >>>>>> Commons licensed picture of the Zakim Bridge for some cliché Boston >>>>> flavor. >>>>>> >>>>>> I added a section titled "Recent Meetings" which will automatically >>>>>> display the 5 most recent wiki pages tagged as "meeting". (It >>> currently >>>>>> shows only page page titles. There are probably things we could do to >>>>>> get it to pull in a page summary or some such.) >>>>>> >>>>>> I created a sample meeting page for our last meeting just so the >>> section >>>>>> above would have something to show. Well need to figure out a >>> template >>>>>> for that, and settle on a page name format. >>>>>> >>>>>> Once the bulk of the data is moved over, time can then be spent >>> revising >>>>>> the look and feel (or perhaps making it look less wiki-like), >>>>>> customizing the menus, and making better use of the embedded widgets >>>>>> they offer, like to embed a Google Calendar. >>>>>> >>>>>> Looking at my notes from a prior conversation with Bill, this is the >>>>>> list of pages that need to be converted (most parenthetical comments >>>>>> from Bill): >>>>>> >>>>>> Home page (first draft done) >>>>>> MITDirections >>>>>> JobPostingPolicy >>>>>> IrcRoom >>>>>> BostonPMCalendar >>>>>> MongerLists >>>>>> Damian2006Mementos (with images, historical) >>>>>> BostonPMHistory (historical; Add entry marking end of kwiki) >>>>>> TechMeetingTopics (idea queue) >>>>>> >>>>>> There is another 4 or 5 less important pages that should also be >>>>>> converted at some point. >>>>>> >>>>>> How the calendar gets handled needs discussion. Bill suggested "The >>>>>> Calendar could reasonably get split into history-by-year pages to >>>>>> reduce max size. Or not." My first instinct would be to handle it the >>>>>> same way the "Recent Meetings" section is handled on the home page, >>>>>> using a widget that displays a list of pages matching a tag. This way >>>>>> the calendar page could have either a single widget or perhaps one >>> per >>>>>> year, while each meeting then gets its own page. >>>>>> >>>>>> As for using Wikispaces itself, you can create a new page by: >>>>>> -typing in the URL where you would like it to be; it'll prompt you to >>>>>> create a new page; >>>>>> -create a link to the new page, then click on the link; >>>>>> -Select the "Pages and Files" menu option, and then click the new >>> page >>>>>> button. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the upper right you'll find a Help link on every page, which will >>>>>> take you to extensive documentation on how to use Wikispaces. For the >>>>>> most part, due to the WYSIWYG editor, you won't need it. >>> Occasionally it >>>>>> is helpful to modify the wiki markup text. To access that, click the >>>>>> down arrow next to the save button when editing a page, and choose >>>>>> "Wikitext Editor." >>>>>> >>>>>> -Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Tom Metro >>>>>> Venture Logic, Newton, MA, USA >>>>>> "Enterprise solutions through open source." >>>>>> Professional Profile: http://tmetro.venturelogic.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Boston-pm mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Boston-pm mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Boston-pm mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Bill >> @n1vux [email protected] >> > > _______________________________________________ > Boston-pm mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm Duane Bronson [email protected] http://www.nerdlogic.com/ 5 Goden St. Belmont, MA 02478 617.515.2909 _______________________________________________ Boston-pm mailing list [email protected] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
