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> From: John Draper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:51 PM
> To: Jim Becher
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [botnets] 2150 connections
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> Jim Becher wrote:
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> > Or an automated tool that can parse the IRC list and draft 
> or send an 
> > e-mail to an abuse contact with a list of the machines from that 
> > domain or netblock that are victims?
> >
> I did this in 2004... the biggest problem I had was getting 
> the cooperation of the ISP's and some type of agreement on 
> the form the multiple reports will be in. Most ISP's are only 
> setup to deal with one report per spam.
> 
> Sending out put reports like this makes us no better then 
> spammers as far as clogging resources.
> Going full bore, I was reporting approx 25,000 spams a day, 
> so that's how many Emails I was mailing out to "abuse" email 
> boxes. I'm just one guy, Imagine of I had release this out in 
> PD, and everyone else was doing it... ISPs would get flooded 
> with reports, people would get careless and not filter their 
> spam properly, leaving non-spam with the spam... worse case 
> is that the poor hapless individual will loose their internet 
> connection or Email.


John,

        I was advocating a single e-mail to the abuse contact with a list of
machines that are victims.  The e-mail should originate from a single
cooperative organization (MyNetwatchman, SANS, dshield, or the like).  I
agree that if an e-mail was generated, by each organization that sees the
botnet, for each victim machine to the abuse contact -- it would be chaos.



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