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True, but then you really get near to the point where you only talk about ports
and not about underlying protocols / principles anymore. Actually it makes no
difference to me, whether the payload on the wire is `NICK foobot' or `GET
/cmd.php HTTP/1.0'. In my opinion, what counts is the idea behind. And then
you're near to IRC like with what you described.


Georg 'oxff' Wicherski

Ken Dunham wrote:
>>I am coming late into this one, but what about HTTP/S for C&C ?
>>
>>>You cannot push commands, but they are polled. 
> 
> 
> True, in part Georg.  But what if you manage multiple domains with multiple
> variants?  It's easier to maintain survivability for a week+ on each one.
> Then, you can have them auto-update every time via a BHO and FTP.  Thus,
> it's rather rapid and effective for push data via the BHO angle with this
> server side solution.  In fact, it's not that far off from what you'd see if
> you had an IRC standard setup for bots, but over port 80 and no central
> point of interference from anti-guys.  That's what we see now with
> Metafisher type bots that are moving to the http/s direction.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ken Dunham
> Director of the Rapid Response Team
> 
> 
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