I have never had a problem with the flash disk. I back up regularly, but if I don't have my media with me I am not without my files. I use a 4gb CF for everything--music, backups, games I would not normally play but want sometimes, GPS maps, and so on, but still have all my working files on my flash disk. I guess it all comes down to personal preference.

Have a great day,
Alex

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'Chris Hallsworth'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'BrailleNote List'" <[email protected]
Date sent: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 14:35:08 -0700
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Re: Data loss

Donna,

If you choose to save your material to the flashdisk, then that's
where it
will be saved. But if you choose to save it to the Keysoft
System, Disk,
then you aren't saving it on the flash drive and you will loose
it if you
reset the machine or if the battery goes flat.

It's best to store all material on cf cards, sd cards or external
disk
drives.  I never store anything on the flash disk.

Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Chris Hallsworth'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"'BrailleNote List'" <[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 5:50 AM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Re: Data loss


Hey Chris,

Sorry if my message was a little strong. *smile* I'm a teacher,
and I
often keep students' grades on my current unit. It's not unusual
for me
to have several sets of grades on the unit at any given time.
Given
that losing your students' grades is generally frowned upon, I
take a
pretty hardline stance on this issue. And you're right, there's
a big
difference between an occasional problem and a regular one.
Mary
Ellen's message lead me to believe this is a regular problem, at
least
for her. And you're also right about backing up data, that just
makes
sense if you keep important information on your notetaker.

I have a question for the list, doesn't the BN store all data in
Flash?
This should mean that data isn't lost even during a reset. Can
anyone
speak to this?
Cheers,
Donna

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Chris Hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 7:27 AM
To: BrailleNote List
Subject: [Braillenote] Re: Data loss


OK OK OK, if it happens regularly, then yes I agree it's
unacceptable; I was
talking about once in a while situations, not regular ones.
Sorry for any
confusion caused.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:28 PM
Subject: Data loss


Hi Chris, Mary, and all,

Actually, Chris, I have to strongly disagree. though what you
say
about
PCs is true, that happense *very rarely.  If the BN
frequently loses data,
especially if there's been no crash of the device, that is
an unacceptable
flaw.  If you can't mostly rely on your device to preserve
data, why
bother owning it in the first place.

I currently use a competitor's product--the one that came
out in fall
of
2003. I can't say I *never lose data, but if I do, it's
because the unit
has locked up and a cold reset must be performed, so I know
that any data
that hasn't been backed up is lost. I'm on this list because I
was
considering purchasing a BN. If what Mary Ellen describes
is a pervasive
problem with these units, I think that just took the BN
right off the
table for me. I'll tolerate lots of bugs in a product, but
data loss is
definitely not one of them.
Best,
Donna
P.S.  I also you Sprite Backup with my current unit. I know
the BN has
some kind of backup feature, at least I think it does.  It
would be a good
thing if that program could allow you to back up your data
to a storage
card.
-----Original Message-----
From: "Chris Hallsworth"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 8/7/07 5:01:28 AM
To: "Mary Ellen Earls"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Braillenote
List"<[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Comments:

Mary, sorry to hear you've lost your document, but consider this.
Sometimes
computers can have glitches, one of which is to lose work
that you thought
you last saved. There are a handful of reasons why this
would be the case,
power failure being one of them. So I guess it's the same with
the
BrailleNote; the operating system, Windows CE/Keysoft, must
have glitches
in
them that occur from time to time, and one of these is to
erase a whole
document despite you saved it. So my advice? Consider backing up
the
document to some removable device, so that should you lose
it you've
always
got a backup. Also Mary, did this issue happen on a classic
or an mPower?
As
I say I am sorry to hear what's happened, but it's just one
of these
things
and therefore I hope from this message you'll take my
advice and hopefully
never lose a document again. I hope this helps.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Ellen Earls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:39 AM
Subject: [Braillenote] Comments:


Well let me first say that I hope somewhere along the
line Humanware
will
start addressing the issue of these machines loosing huge
amounts of
material. I am even talking about material which has
specifically been
saved and the machine just kicks it out. The strange
thing is that the
document is still there but absolutely no text is there.
It is like
someone went in went to the top of the document and on a
bt pressed
space
d and space dots 1 4 and the whole document disappeared
To me that is
more
important than anything because I lost 28 pages today
never to recover
them again. I even tried the save and recover feature to no
avail.
This has been a problem with the Braille Note since I
have had one in
2002.
And I am extremely surprised this has not come up more
often but it has
not.
Secondly as far as batteries are concerned, if some of
you will remember
Fs came out in about 2003 or very early 2004 with a
pacmate Braille &
Speak which had a user replacible battery. Ok they went
back and did a
total makeover of the machine which came out in the fall
of 2004 and
guess
what? The battery was not user replacible. Why? Because
there had been
numerous problems with the earlier model of the pacmate
Bns because of
that user replacible batteries.
I have no doubt technology has come a long way since then
and I too
would
love to change my battery out but we have to realize hw
can only pack so
much in an upgrade at any given time and they have only
so many people
in
development.
In a perfect world there would be that one perfect machine with
everything
for everyone but alas, this is 2007 the world is not a
perfect world and
now you have myriads of machines out there to choose
from, so you do not
like the features of one machine, go to its competitor
and perhaps you
will find what you want from them.
Mary Ellen Earls

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