Hi, That - thanks for reminding me about that. The context, in my opinion, is not the way mPower and Apex connects to a computer via Bluetooth, rather it's a fight between an operating system and the device driver. If a service is not available, then mPower nor an Apex cannot connect to a computer. Here, an operating system has drivers for generic Bluetooth dongles and is supposed to provide basic algorithms and services for a device to be connected; here, there is nothing about available services, thus my conclusion. As for connection startup, whereas mPower is the one initiating the connection, Apex is the one responding to a computer's request. This is the very exploit we want to use to "fool" KeySoft to get the Bluetooth file transfer to work and to use it as a display with screen readers. However, as of 9.0.2.756, the appearance the interface) under Apex' Bluetooth stack is such that it gives an impression that Apex is the one that initiates the connection (which does make sense if the Apex needs to act as host for some devices). The only exception so far has been using 0000 as passcode as part of the connection instructions for Braille displays, since no other services are offered by the Apex (possible exceptions is PAN). I expect a major revision of the interface to arrive within next few months, which gives me a perfect reason to include Grant's points in the next message... Cheers, Joseph
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:52 PM To: BrailleNote mailing list Subject: Re: [Braillenote] BrailleNote mPower as a Bluetooth Braille display Joseph, the Apex uses an entirely new Bluetooth stack and a different interface for getting Bluetooth devices up and running, so you can't conclude that Bluetooth services that run on the Apex will work on the mPower. Grant On 7/29/10, Joseph Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > I see... Almost same as Alex's situation. I'll try it (later) when I get my > Apex back and Win7 installed. > Cheers, > Joseph > > -----Original Message----- > From: chris hallsworth [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:12 AM > To: Joseph Lee > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] BrailleNote mPower as a Bluetooth Braille > display > > Hi, my PC doesn't offer the service that BrailleNote mPower requires. So > don't get very far with it at all. I can pair them but since no services > are available they are practically useless with each other. > > > Signed by Chris Hallsworth > E-mail and Facebook: [email protected] > MSN: [email protected] > Skype: chrishallsworth7266 > Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 > > On 29/07/2010 9:10, Joseph Lee wrote: >> Hi, >> I see. I think Alex had the same issue. What exact problem are you >> having? >> Does JAWS (or other ones) give you balloon notification about when the >> mPower (or an Apex) is attempting to connect to a Win7 machine? >> Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: chris hallsworth [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:06 AM >> To: Joseph Lee >> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] BrailleNote mPower as a Bluetooth Braille > display >> >> No I am using 32 bit. >> >> >> Signed by Chris Hallsworth >> E-mail and Facebook: [email protected] >> MSN: [email protected] >> Skype: chrishallsworth7266 >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 >> >> On 29/07/2010 9:02, Joseph Lee wrote: >>> Hi Chris, >>> You are using 64-bit machine, right? >>> Cheers, >>> Joseph >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of chris >>> hallsworth >>> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 12:40 AM >>> To: Grant Hardy >>> Cc: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] BrailleNote mPower as a Bluetooth Braille >> display >>> >>> From my end I am unable to get it up and running even with the >>> latest >>> bluetooth drivers from Broadcomm in my case. 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